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Beauty in Tears
Nice little tune by The blind Harper
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I think this O Carollan one has the feel of a minuet, don't know if it's just the way I am playingi it though lol.  It's supposed to be a bit quicker I think. But I like this speed

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@stringy -

Nice playing - I enjoyed listening! 

Great to see you have it memorized - think there's a lot of potential for experimenting with phrasing on this tune.  I LOVE the Baroque feeling of O'Carolan pieces!

Interesting history - being a harpist, I'm sure O'Carolan was aware of & probably developed "Beauty in Tears" from the simpler Welsh "Llwyn Onn" (The Ash Grove - SharonC's forum project - 2022).   

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Will have to look it up, just looked at Sharon's and she has taken it down.

Don't know if you know,  but with your musical knowledge you probably do, that he was told he was hopeless as a musician and should just compose, which he did. I don't think he gets the recognition he deserved

I really like his slower pieces, I will put some time into trying to polish this one, I normally only keep a few tunes for practicing but th is a keeper. ;)

Have you heard the tune the blind harper that was written about him, few good versions on you tube.

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very good @stringy!

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@stringy -

Oops, sorry (my fault) - try the link again, will take you to the thread post with Sharon's link... peaceful tune, but I would've liked to play it a bit faster.

Have heard versions of 'The Blind Harper' & also as 'The Lochmaben Harper'.  I just haven't had a version grab me quite as much as some other ballads do. 

Do you have a particular favorite?  ...be great if you consider singing it! 

I do LOVE ballads & have been mulling over different ways of playing, so to keep up a listener's interest throughout the repeats of verses ballads have - cause I'm NOT singing (except in my mind).   

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Abitrusty, thanks for having a look, truth is though its terrible lol. I now do the fiddle just for personal satisfaction, and because Its hard to stop I suppose, especially after the time I have wasted on it

I will never be any good at it, not that it matters anyway, but it's a laugh trying, and in reality, maybe it doesn't really matter how good you are anyway. At least I haven't spent thousands on pointless lessons.

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Emily, you should sing, no matter how bad or good you think you are, singing is the greatest skill possible for a musician, and makes you feel good, which is what it's all about. My old feller said to me when I was a kid learn an instrument and you will never go hungry, he was right and wrong, learn to sing, or learn how to have the confidence to do it even you are awful, and people will give you money wether you play an instrument or not, because they are scared to do it themselves, but love listening to others. I love singing more than anything in the world, and that's the truth. I sing a tune and no matter how bad it is, my heart and soul are in it, I think thats music.

This is my fave version, I may have posted this once before,

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@stringy -

Nice version! 

Jeez, I don't know why you think you'll never be any good at playing the violin - you already are... and if you can discover, or even guess, at what is making you unhappy, someone can help.  So, then where's the limit?  ...if you injure yourself, can't practice every day, or can't afford strings - those are the only limits I see.

ME sing 😳... I already have trouble 'zoning out' while I'm playing a tune, especially when I'm enjoying a brief moment of decent playing (or the cat starts chiming in)!   The 'texture' of lyrics, the consonants, vowels & punctuation, seem just as important as meaning in songs, to me - too much more for me to have to practice!  😖 Think I spent way too many years humming/singing along - just gettin' down with the music.  Yeah... I'd be guilty of this (removed "Misheard Lyrics & Made Up Songs", Steve Moris video).  

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Thanks for the reply Emily, said it before you have a heart of gold.

That vid was really funny, don't know if you have heard of Kate Bush, but she had a .oad of hits over here, one day a friend of mine said why does she sing 'she's got floppy ears' as the chorus, the song was jeaux sans frontiers and was about the Eurovision song contest, she had been singing she's got floppy ears for years ;), like the way the guy in the vid thanks all the Vets at the end as well for the cancer treatment and I hope he meant their service too.

Doesn't matter if you sing the wrong words, we all sing the wrong words in life, ;)

Thanks again for the kind comment)

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Lovely piece, @stringy I loved the placement and use of vibrato. In all the right places, and just enough. 

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Please ignore any typos. My typing ability on a real typewriter did not transfer to these device key pads.

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Thanks for having a listen and for the comment mouse :)

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@stringy  Great job on Beauty in Tears!  I know this tune--I think I like it better than the Ash Grove, which is very similar. 

I don't think you're playing it too slow--I've heard it both faster & slower (slower than yours) - like a lot of things, I think I like the slower versions better smile

Characterize people by their actions and you will never be fooled by their words.

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A lot of truth in the title, that's a new one to me.

Thank you for introducing it to me.

Mark

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Thanks for taking a look sharon, and the info on the speed :)

Mark, he wrote some lovely tunes no doubt about it.

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