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Minuet in g from suzuki
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I started to learn this a long time ago then stopped but jim has inspired me to try to finish it, second part is a work in progress

https://youtu.be/k2CT4G0-WwM

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That is very nice. It sounds better done on a violin than a cello. The tune is too loght hearted for a cello. LOL 

Yep, that second part is harder. I think, for me, it is because I think of it as the Lover's Concerto and that second part I do not identify with that that.

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That's coming along nicely @stringy . You're definitely getting the essential character of the music across.

Nice shifting as well, and good job on the intonation in 3rd position - it's a challenge playing in tune up there.

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Thanks mouse and jim.

Great tune mouse isnt it, I think be ause its in an early sizuki book people tend to ignore it, but some excellent tunes in there, second part is definately harder, for me anyway.

Jim, yup third position is more difficult, especially changing to a part with a couple of flats, lol, nearly ended up in a and e with twisted fingers. I am guilty of starting lots of tunes and moving on before trying to play them correctly, but I am now going to go back to square one and watch everything liks a hawk and start correcting bowing faults and aĺl the other things I have been ignoring , trouble is, I hate recording myself and facing reality, but its the only way to get any better.

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Sounding good stringy! 

 

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 I am guilty of starting lots of tunes and moving on before trying to play them correctly, but I am now going to go back to square one and watch everything liks a hawk and start correcting bowing faults and aĺl the other things I have been ignoring , trouble is, I hate recording myself and facing reality, but its the only way to get any better.

  

You're not the only one guilty of that. I literally have to put sheet music that I'm not supposed to be moving onto in an inconvenient place to get to. It's just too tempting. I'm the same as you with recording. You're ahead of me with that. thumbs-up

It's easy to play any musical instrument: all you have to do is touch the right key at the right time and the instrument will play itself. Johann S.Bach

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Good work, Stringy!

I'm not sure what's known and what's still believed about this piece. 

It's not Bach, and it's not for cello (there is another Suzuki piece that is from a Bach cello suite). 

It's Petzold, and it's for harpsichord. Often keyboard music is not nice to play on string instruments (Scarlatti on guitar certainly isn't much fun), so we got lucky with this one.

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I think because its in an early sizuki book people tend to ignore it

You're probably right - the Suzuki books tend to go from easy at the beginning of each book to much harder towards the end. ABRSM often have one Suzuki piece in their exams which is two levels higher than the book it's from, e.g. the Bach Double v2 is Suzuki 4, ABRSM grade 6 or thereabouts. This Petzold is probably grade 4.

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Thanks Annyj, I will have to put my sheet somewnere difficult to get at, maybe on my roof;)

Gordon/Andrew , thats extremely interesting information about the tune, I will take a look at the composer you mention. I really like the tune itself and am going to see if there are others that can be played on violin by the same man. 

It makes you wonder, if there are others attributed wrongly, I suppose its quite possible, brings to mind the Shakespeare/Marlow, theory.

Thanks for the info.

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Great playing Stringy thank for posting you looked like you were enjoying playing it. 
I agree about moving on to other pieces I find I get it the best I can then I don’t make any more progress and I jack it in and move on. 
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katie m said

I agree about moving on to other pieces I find I get it the best I can then I don’t make any more progress and I jack it in and move on.  

This is wise. I've seen people on guitar forums who imagine that you have to spend years on one piece trying to get it "perfect". It doesn't work that way*. They believe what I can only consider to be urban myths about a famous player who plays a piece from beginning to end perfectly ten times over, and if one note is wrong they start all over again. Well, even if there is one player who is that obsessive, or whose father as teacher was that obsessive, that doesn't make it a sensible example to follow. True, Menuhin was made to play the Bach chaconne three times in a row without a break, but that was about stamina, not about note perfection.

Practise something for 6 or 8 weeks until it is OK, then go onto something harder and repeat.

*Julian Bream used to rehearse a new piece for a year before performing it in public, but I'm pretty sure that that was to make sure that it was perfectly memorised.

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Great work on this, @stringy ! 

I believe you shouldn’t spend too much time banging your head against the wall on a piece.  When you get to a non-progressive point, it’s best to move on to something else & revisit it again later.    

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you are probably right  Sharon, I get hung up sometimes on unfinished business:)

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well alright @stringy!   some nice playing there.

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Very nice, @stringy! Ya' dun good! Have one suggestion, but not about the playing. Whatever you have running on the computer (I'm assuming) changes the light level on you and the background and I, at least, find it distracting.

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Thanks Greg, no practicing now this week as I am off to London for a short break , watch a few shows, got back to the future, life of pi, and the ocean at the end of the lane tickets, yippee looking forward to it.

John hadnt really thought about the light, I am sat in front of the tv, just turn the volume down, and wedge my I pad in front of it to keep it from falling over, then straight back to watching , one of my history programs, I will turn it off next time, to be honest though anything that distracts from looking at me must be a good thing:)

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Nice playing @stringy ! I didn't even know there was a second part to this tune, it's the first time I hear it. You're doing good with vibrato and 3rd position.

I totally agree about not spending too much time one getting one tune perfect. It's not linear. Better go try other things (a bit harder, or just a different style, …), and come back to it later : most likely you'll find you've improved, even by practicing something else.

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stringy

You played well, enjoyed that.

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