Jim I learned it by ear, I am not a great believer with fiddle tunes all being exactly alike, I think it ruins something, but saying that, I also dont believe they should be to different, you should be able to see the original tune, if you get me, just my thought. I only learned this myself the other day along with the book of rights, I have recorded this one twice, a shorter version on you tube which is slightly different. I place the ornaments just were I think they will sound right, I try not to get carried away with them and putthem everywhere, this one is a bit jerky but will become more fluid as I get into it. One of the problems I now have is that I know so many fiddle tunes I cant get round to practicing them all, Emily had a thread about the same thing

Emily thanks for your comment its much appreciated, it will get better as it becomes more automatic,  but I am fairly happy for a new Tune.

Greg I will have to have a look at the Blarney pilgrim, sounds a good idea. I like this one because its a bit tricky at the start.

Emily I have just recently started to try things out like you mention, I think the only way to get it right is by playing with other musicians, this is how I origInally learned guitar, playing in a group cant be beaten for timing, as any guaitarist will confirm, it becomes automatic, but then agai thats why I picked up fiddle, like I have said before its a challenge to kèep my mind occupied. I have actually been working on a lot of guitar things at the moment since I got my 8 track, almost completed wonderful life by black on which I play rythm Lead and bass guitar as well as sing, I need a drum machine thougha to finnish that one, I can play buran but it wouldnt really go with that type of music, and I also would have to buy one anyway as I stood on my last one lol

I have my eye on one in an auction, so wont know till the last minute really if I get it, or not, it looks fairly modern but the manufacture is excellent and the wood is beautiful if no one else has noticed it, it will be an excellent buy, I have bid before on various french ones and been outdone at the last minute, when the bidding really takes off. The last one I just missed out on was a beautiful 1910 Mirecourt, from the scroll it looked hand made, but doesnt matter as I missed it anyway.

I wont be getting rid of my current violin even if the other one is better, which would take some doing, there are no bad notes on it at all, except the ones I play, the tone when I got it was the same as my stentor but has gradually got better as I have learned to get more from it, its Hungarian from a very small factory that only make a few a year, I would like to hear what a proffesional could make it sound like.