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I still need to work on my keeping my bowing straight, getting rid of the shaky bow thing, and avoiding the accidental double stops.  A recent development is that for some reason the moment the camera goes on I've started tensing up and somewhere in the middle of playing I completely freeze and can't move my fingers to play the next note.  It's very frustrating because I can play this piece slightly less horribly when the camera isn't recording.  But, when the little red light is on I'm a total disaster with it.

Anyway, here it is.

 

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Lol join the camera club, there have been big discussions about this on here, everyone plays worse when tne camera goes on, it cant be helped its a fact. Usually I will play a tune bob, on ten times, and as soon as I record it, I will get all through and right at the end hit the wrong note, its quite funny when you get used to it, as long as you dont snap your bow in temper, but also very frustrating. 

 think you sound good, especially for the length of time you have been playing, as for accidental double stops, dont worry, as when you actually try to learn them you will suddenly find the exact opposite happens.

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@RDP -

Great piece! 

Keep at it, you are doing very well! 

We've got threads here about freezing up recording - you are already recording regularly, so that will help over time and you can join our Parties, too. 😊 

- Emily

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RDP

Yelp red light syndrome gets us all,

I recognize the tune, your doing well keep at it.

My Mom likes this song very much. I need to be the good son and get my self in gear and learn this for her. 

Mark

Master the Frog and you have mastered the bow.

Albert Sammons

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Definitely coming along! I always feel victorious if the tune can be recognized, as yours is here. Red light syndrome is common, as others have said. The only way to overcome it or at least be able to live with it is to keep doing it. Even if you don't plan on sharing it, record often.

The old curmudgeon!

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This recording and the one for Inisheer have shown me that, while I'm improving, I still have a long way to go to get to a point where I can say I can play a violin well.

@ELCBK - I'm probably going to record my attempt to play Bach's Minuet No. 1 this week.  I'll post that to the Bach Party thread.

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Oh well done !! I instantly recognised it ! I know what you mean about tensing up but there are lots of vids on you tube. I was just watching one on thumb tension. I thought you did really well. 

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@RDP You've done good work on this.  There is a lot going on when you play violin.  And then, on top of it, add in the camera thing.  The brain goes into overload a little, I think.  All perfectly normal.  

I think I mentioned this elsewhere, that when I first started recording, I put a towel over my Ipad (what I was using to record) so that only the small camera “eye” was peeking out.  It helped.  I don’t think about the camera now, but it takes some time--like all things violin.

Characterize people by their actions and you will never be fooled by their words.

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Katie M said
Oh well done !! I instantly recognised it ! I know what you mean about tensing up but there are lots of vids on you tube. I was just watching one on thumb tension. I thought you did really well. 

  

There are times when I'm so tense I'm grabbing the neck and jamming the violin into my throat so hard I get bruised.  I'm working on that and forcing myself to relax and let go of the neck.  At which point the violin tries to fall off my shoulder even if I'm pressing with my chin into the chin rest.  I'm pretty sure it's the material my shirts are made of that's causing it, the shoulder rest just slides around on it without gripping.

 

Now the question is; when are you going to record and post you playing this piece?

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I will definitely try RDP but i find it tough and long … maybe start a party would love to see everyone’s version. Dance of the knights would be fun although there is no way I would even attempt that unless…. Fiddlerman did a tutorial ?

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LOL, @RDP - YES, the camera mysteriously does that to almost everyone.
There is one great solution to this phenomena. Record yourself way more often.... The more you do, the less you are subconscious in front of it.

As for the "shaking", perhaps a more flexible finger grip on the bow, but for sure, try to angle the bow just every so slightly. It will keep your wrist from being stiff and will give you a small amount of shock absorber with the angled hair.
It's almost impossible for me to tell from your angle but your bow might be too tight for the little pressure that you use when playing. Having a looser bow will reduce bouncing as well.

Thanks so much for posting. Very well done!!!

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@RDP - Congratulations on your first badge!!!

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Fiddlerman said
LOL, @RDP - YES, the camera mysteriously does that to almost everyone.

There is one great solution to this phenomena. Record yourself way more often.... The more you do, the less you are subconscious in front of it.

As for the "shaking", perhaps a more flexible finger grip on the bow, but for sure, try to angle the bow just every so slightly. It will keep your wrist from being stiff and will give you a small amount of shock absorber with the angled hair.

It's almost impossible for me to tell from your angle but your bow might be too tight for the little pressure that you use when playing. Having a looser bow will reduce bouncing as well.

Thanks so much for posting. Very well done!!!

  

I'm still working on my bow hold.  I can't seem to find that one place where it works for me.  Either I'm too high on the stick, or I'm overworking my pinky trying to lift the bow so it doesn't scratch so much.  I also seem to prefer to tilt the bow the "wrong way" so that the stick is between me and the hair.  I know, I'm weird like that.

 

I'm working on reducing the bow tension too.  I find that if it's too "loose" I double stop more than I usually do.  At this point I'm a full turn "looser" than I was when I started so I am getting there slowly.

 

The shaking is partly because I have muscle tremors.  There are days where I shake so much I can't drink hot coffee safely even using two hands.  I'm going to see the doc about that soon but I don't have much hope for an easy fix.  I'm probably never going to play for anyone so even if I can't get past the tremors, I'm still good. Of course YOU GUYS are going to have to suffer when listening to my quavery bowing in my videos, but I'm good with that too.  tongue

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Don't worry, we don't suffer at all. 😁

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