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Halloween competition - BattleToTheTop.com
Halloween competition - BattleToTheTop.com - Scary violin video competiti0n
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@Fiddlerman, I think this one was just hard to get the motivation.  By that I mean that it was difficult, for me at least, to find a good, scary piece to learn quickly.

Some things that would help ME next time:

1.  I need at least 2-3 weeks to prepare.  I think this was posted at the beginning of the month, but due to my own fault, I didn't see it right away (Plus I was in the middle of moving, so it was even more difficult (didn't play for like 3 weeks straightcry))

2.  The dead line was very ambiguous from the start.  With out a deadline, it's easy to blow it off until its too late.

3.  The site being down until the last minute didn't help.

 

These are of course meant to be constructive, not critical.  I think we all really like the idea of the competitions, we just need to be able to plan it better on our end I think.

I'd be willing to bet that if you posted a competition now-ish for a Christmas/Hanukkah song, maybe have two categories (easy/intermediate) that had a set deadline of 1-15 December-ish, you would have more participation, because I think a lot of people are starting to work on their holiday repetoire (I'm sure I had absolutely nothing to do with that at all).  Just a thought.

Again, I think we all love the comps, its just a matter of whether or not we can fit it in.  And now I'm just making excuses for our failure to perform.  yell

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I'm ssssooooorry!cryfrownembarassed

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Sorry, I haven't been into it. Wife sick again, and my closest 27-year-old nephew was found dead.

Please keep it open though. I, for one, plan to participate.

 

Duane

 

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Two contestants managed to enter and that is all we needed.

Please log into BattleToTheTop.com if you've registered, if not, register and login to vote. Two entertaining and creative videos. I loved them both.

Thanks

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I agree. They were both very creative. I just voted; it was hard to choose.

I would have participated but A. I couldn't think of a good Halloween tune to play and B. I already have a fiddlerman.com bow.

Kudos to both contestants!

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Been looking around > how to get there, etc. > Sort of a room that one must find the secret key to get in kinda thing. I forget my logIn, etc. > a link please so I can make another stab at it. > To vote that is. Is there an obvious short cut I have missed? the site never seemed to like me. Would like to go there to view and vote.

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@StoneDog 

Here's a link to the site:

http://battletothetop.com

If you forgot your password, hover over the account button and the drop down menu will give you the option to reset it.

Once you're in as a voter, hover over the competition button. You'll see a drop down that says judge a round, click on that and then you'll see another link to click that will take you to the videos.

To watch them, just click on the pictures. To vote, select the A or B above the videos, and finally the vote button.

Hope that helpssmile

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Thanks Feathers > I tried again > I re-registered as a whole different gig. Still can't get in??? sort of like our new health care site. The OBAMA site. > I have low patience. I will just go back to practicing my viddle. Thanks for your help Feathers > may your wings fly high in the sky.

 

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@StoneDog 

You're welcomesmile Sorry it's still giving you issues though.

The only two things I can think of right now would be:

1. Trouble logging in: If you're using Firefox and have the noscript add on, make sure you allow the site.

2. If you can login: Check to see that you're set as a voter, and not competitor. This can be changed in the account area by hovering over the account button, then select modify account in the drop down.

And I love the ----> may your wings fly high in the sky.  StoneDog Rocks!!!!cool

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KindaScratchy said

I agree. They were both very creative. I just voted; it was hard to choose.

I would have participated but A. I couldn't think of a good Halloween tune to play and B. I already have a fiddlerman.com bow.

Kudos to both contestants!

It just occurred to me that sounds like I presumed I'd win. I certainly would never presume that! Sorry...it was a dumb thing to say. :/

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I didn't think it sounded like that, Diane.  But any time there is a prize, I think it is kind of natural to think of it as whether it was something you want *if* you win.

You already have an FM bow, so some of the "draw" would be less strong than for folks that don't, maybe.  That's pretty easy to understand.

 

I've had to give this some thought, since Halloween *is* one of my fave holidays, and I do play, so why didn't *I* enter?

Well, to cover the easy things first.. As has already been mentioned, deadline for it was kind of unclear, and I couldn't think offhand of any actual halloween songs I wanted to do.  The BattleToTheTop site is kind of unclear.  Even looking at it this morning, I couldn't see if there was a current contest going on, only that there had been a contest on Jul 12, 2013.  Not sure what's up with that.

 

But I've never yet actually entered one of the actual contests or drawings here on Fiddlerman.com

There's a few reasons, although I may just be weird and I don't assume they are anybody else's reasons.  To be honest, if it had just been a "party", I probably would have been more likely to jump in on it, based on looking at my own record for participation.

First, with gear giveaways, I *like* my current instruments and my bow is working for me.  At least at this time in my development, I am not perceiving a need for an upgrade. 

Second, I know that there are others here with gear they aren't as happy with, and so they need it more than I do. 

Not saying I am all that altruistic, but my need for the prize wasn't something I saw as a prio.

So that's a lot of why I haven't entered competitions or even giveaways. 

Competitions touch on another matter though.  It is definitely true that some parts of being a musician are competitive, if you want to do well.  Some venues and etc, to have a place in them, you have be out to *win* to get there.  Maybe even be a bit ruthless.

But this particular community I think tends to a more supportive rather than competitive focus.  Some group projects have gotten good participation.  Some of the "parties" have gotten good participation.  Even the newest of noobs sometimes come out of the woodwork and quit lurking to get in on those. 

Those aren't competitive, though. There is no "duel" or "battle" mentality running there.  In fact, if someone said "I can do better than that.." to someone who had just posted a song or piece in those projects/threads, even if they proceeded to kick that person's butt, I am not at all sure that would even go over well. LOL  I think at least some of us would tend to think they should have picked another piece to show off their skill with, or at least shouldn't have made it a "personal thing" that could discourage another.

I'm not saying that's a bad thing at all.  I think it is maybe one of the best things about this community.  But it doesn't naturally lead to "head cutting duel" type events.  (To use a tired old stereotype)

Anyway, I would suggest:

1.) Use the polls as a tool to identify what items would be most desirable as prizes.  Don't assume it would be the most expensive items either.  I've never seen a private lesson with Pierre or a set of strings up as a prize, but I'd bet they'd get some votes since they are something every player can use.  Get a brainstorming session going to get a big list of possibilities and then use a poll to see how they stack up.

2.) If you specifically want more participation, then try incentivizing participation itself.  One way that can be done is to have the prize proportionate to the number of participants.  For an example, let's assume strings ended up being something you decided to offer as a prize for some contest or giveaway.  Say, up to 3 contestants, the prize would be a set of Prelude strings.  But at 4 contestants, it becomes a set of Pro Artes.  Maybe at 8, the prize becomes a set of Zyex.  That way, if people want to see bigger prizes, they have to get involved or maybe even encourage other people to participate.  It could also keep the prize you are putting up proportionate to the traffic/interest it is generating for you.  That's just a rough idea, and not necessarily a great example.

Just another 2 cents worth of gasoline on the fire. LOL

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DanielB said

Anyway, I would suggest:

1.) Use the polls as a tool to identify what items would be most desirable as prizes.  Don't assume it would be the most expensive items either.  I've never seen a private lesson with Pierre or a set of strings up as a prize, but I'd bet they'd get some votes since they are something every player can use.  Get a brainstorming session going to get a big list of possibilities and then use a poll to see how they stack up.

2.) If you specifically want more participation, then try incentivizing participation itself.  One way that can be done is to have the prize proportionate to the number of participants.  For an example, let's assume strings ended up being something you decided to offer as a prize for some contest or giveaway.  Say, up to 3 contestants, the prize would be a set of Prelude strings.  But at 4 contestants, it becomes a set of Pro Artes.  Maybe at 8, the prize becomes a set of Zyex.  That way, if people want to see bigger prizes, they have to get involved or maybe even encourage other people to participate.  It could also keep the prize you are putting up proportionate to the traffic/interest it is generating for you.  That's just a rough idea, and not necessarily a great example.

Just another 2 cents worth of gasoline on the fire. LOL

@DanielB, those are SOLID suggestions my friend!

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OK, figured out how to vote. For some reason when I clicked the videos to watch them, I could only see the lower right quarter of the video due to being positioned off the top left corner of my screen, and the window wasn't moveable.

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I tried early on to log on...it failed.. (I am sure operator error).   I logged on today using Feathers link and got on and logged on.  I saw last times entrants but not the current ones... Maybe they are not there.  I was very interested in giving a shot, but I just didn't take enough time or do what was needed to sort it out.  AND dang it I Want that bow!

I hope we can work it out next time and get interest.  I want Pierre to continue to see out enthusiastic playing and it is just plain fun.  I had a few  unusual songs and ideas to play.

I guess I am saying I should have spoke up and tried harder to play in this contest.  SO next time maybe we can all really communicate and help each other more.

 

Cheers to the Site, Thank you Pierre.. and Who won?

Toni

 

Oh..I just wanted to say I finally subscribed to a thread for the Music recital and that is helping me keep in the loop so I am more inclined to not feel out of the loop as the deadline approaches.

Happy Novemeber

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I agree CP > this gig rocks. > I want to vote, I want to participate, etc > but I seem to not be able to get in????? > I hope there will be another one >>> CAUSE > I want in.

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Ok, at the risk of sounding more experienced than I am ...

Daniel, I think you have the purpose of these 'competitions' a little awry.  I've never seen them become 'duels' or those sort of negative areas of competition where people are discouraged due to lack of experience etc.  As you say, we're a very supportive group and all critiques given to fellow members are very encouraging.

Also, how come you didn't know the deadline?  I don't know where you live, but I had to ask friends when Halloween is, because we don't celebrate those holidays here.  But I still knew when it was, a little Googling will always help ... rofl

My final point here is prizes.  I'm not sure we should be offered those, as the recognition of winning a competition is prize enough for new players like me.  And somebody has to supply them, material or otherwise.  Then you have postage costs, and a lot of us live in far removed areas of the globe ... more and more costly!

Having said that ... a free lesson with Pierre? ... now that might be something I'd battle for!

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@Robyn:  Well, as I said, I may just be weird on some things.  I'm glad you have never seen something set up as a friendly competition turn into something else.  I wish I could say the same.  Even here, I can recall at least a couple of competitions that didn't turn out with everyone all happy all around. 

 

So far as the deadline, well, I certainly know when Halloween is.  But it didn't make much sense to me for that to be the deadline.  Usually on at least some level, business sponsored events are a tool that is used to increase business or traffic.  If you want to increase those things for a particular holiday season, usually you have your events some days before the actual holiday. 

That's why places like department stores or malls that hire somebody dressed up like Santa Claus and make a big event about it usually do it at least a couple weeks before the holiday.  If they waited until Christmas eve or day, it doesn't do as much to boost the business. 

So I knew when Halloween was.  Just didn't assume it was a likely actual deadline for a Halloween promotional event.  rofl

My logic would have been to have a deadline a couple of weeks before Halloween.  That way the results and the winning video could be put up on Fiddlerman.com and Fiddlershop.com to see if maybe they draw a bit of traffic, see how much youtube or social networking interest they get, etc.  Then it might be possible to actually get the bow to the winner by Halloween, and use that as a good excuse to try and get a party going on the forum to congratulate/celebrate.  Sort of a victory lap.  Get the winner to put up pics or a short vid of themselves playing with the new bow, and then encourage a bit of musical mayhem from all members.

That way if someone new found the community or the fiddlershop biz as a result, they'd see a lot of fun going on and might decide that they need a violin of their own or that they want to make an account and log in and say hello.  For established members, activities are something fun and interesting to do, to keep the community active.

 

I don't really come here for prizes or to see what I can get out of Pierre. LOL  Right up in the banner at the top of the page, it says "Learn to play violin for free."

For me, that's enough.  The lessons and tutorials here, and supportive members who will try to help if you have a question and encourage you when it's maybe being a frustrating day for learning, they add up to a lot for someone trying to learn to play this instrument.  I don't know if I would have made it through my first year without giving up, if it hadn't been for this place and the folks here.  That's worth more to me than any prize I can imagine.

 

 

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The voting on the battle site isn't really intuitive [to me anyway] - I just hovered over stuff until it said something about judging a round. It took me a bit to realize that the videos that showed up when I logged on were from the _last_ competition, but sometimes I am a little slow on the uptake. dazed

 

Anyway, as far as competitions/projects in general around here, I think Pierre does an excellent job of "herding cats." I am just sorry I haven't had time to participate like I want to.

 

I think when it is an online event [as opposed to say a physical recital] there just isn't as much urgency as there is when Grandma, Grandpa, Uncle Lou and Aunt Myrtle are getting dressed up in their Sunday best to drive over to the Rec Center on a Friday night to hear you play at 7:00. There also isn't as much daily life chitchat of folks excited about the event and anticipating your performance.

 

With that said, I hope to do better in the future.

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I have looked at the website several, and I registered; however, I don't really find much on there. Do you have to create a login for other links on the site? I will try again.

Duane

 

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Congratulations to Randal Gray for winning the Fiddlerman Bow.

Please PM me your address for the prize :-)

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