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Teach your student to teach themselves
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October 6, 2014 - 11:38 pm
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Playing in the dark or with your eyes closed from time to time is actually a great suggestion cdennyb. You heighten other senses tremendously when doing so. :)

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October 7, 2014 - 4:48 pm
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I like this idea and I have been doing it for a short time here and there... I get happy just to be able to do it... it feels like progress.  Sometimes if one of my grown children shows up and I am doing this, they feel I am either nuts or sad.  It takes a lot of explaining.. LOL  Thank goodness for musician friends here on the forum. drummer

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October 8, 2014 - 4:37 am
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Fiddlerman said
Let's face it. A student spends probably one hour a week with a teacher and up to 40 hours practicing at home by themselves. Don't just tell your students what they are doing wrong, rather ask them questions that will help them troubleshoot themselves. Give them tips on how they can analyze their sound production, how they can experiment with bow contact point and pressure, relaxation techniques, listening and making changes that affects the sound. Encourage them to record themselves and teach them to be their own teacher in any way you can.


Sooo much to this Pierre ....my teacher reminds me regularly that he is supplying the tools and insight , corrections and pointers , etc . but the work is mine to do ...anyone taking notes in class or recording their lessons ? Getting quizzed on what you learned at last lesson during the start of yer next lesson ? Asked to assess yer pros and cons ...?Asked what you think you need more attention to ?

Gotta love this wonderful instrument and the folks with so much patience to help us learn ..violin-1267


October 8, 2014 - 8:23 am
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When it comes to learning music, all the really important work is done by the student.  Not the teacher.  A teacher can give you tools, but you can only learn how to use them by using them.  A really good teacher may be able to even encourage you to learn to think for yourself, and develop your ability to tell when you have something sounding right or not. 

But they can't make you practice.  Can't make you practice what they feel you should.  Can't make you listen.  Can't make you think.  Can't make you learn.  That's all you, and you have to find your own reasons and get up your motivation to do it, and do the work. 

It is easy to focus on lessons (including method books, internet tutorials, etc) as the important part.  But the hour or so of lessons is not the part that is going to make the biggest differences in your playing.  It is the time that you spend on what you were able to understand from them

"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman

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October 8, 2014 - 1:23 pm
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Good Point Daniel.  I took another leap and added 30 minutes to my scheduled practice.

It is not easy to add in the extra 30 minutes, but two days into it so far.  I have to cut a social function short tonight by an hour to make sure I get in the practice.

I am hoping to make some leaps.   :)

Thanks for this good topic. And thanks to Ken, Fiddlestix for putting it out there for me.

Toni... who finds that 90 minutes flys by just like 60. ( and 17 minutes of straight Swallowtail is a work out). :)

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rockinglr33 said
@suresh  Alright, i shall start it with what ever pops into my head at the moment and i'll update it as i think about it more.... and most of these tips i have learned from everyone on this site so if i'm stealing your thunder i apologize! feel free to pipe up! i don't wanna snag someone else's helpful pieces!! 

Some helpful tips, suggestions, pitfalls and expectations of the beginners (not nessicarily in the order poster and a lot tie into each other)

3. video yourself! especially if you don't have a teacher, but even if you do video yourself. You don't have to share it with anyone but being able to see and hear yourself from an outside point of view can really point out some glaring problems that you don't notice before. if you feel comfortable find a place to post them (like here) and try and get some positive criticism and critique.

Very good topic and great to create a guideline or something.

rockinglr33 mentions to video yourself and I have a suggestion for that.

I recently discovered a great tool for that, which is actually coming from sports training. It's called Music Delay Cam. https://itunes.apple.com/nl/ap.....mpt=uo%3D4

In sports athletes practice a lot with video to master complex motions. Because controlling the video during practice takes off valuable practice time, they developed the video delay concept. Video is captured, buffered and presented with a time delay. The process is fully automatic and provides very quick and easy video feedback.

With current technology and the rise of tablets, they put this concept in an app called O'See Sports Video Delay app.

Now, the same people have added Audio to the process to help musicians practice themselves.

I use it myself and it is really great for teaching yourself.

My 2 cents.. 

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