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Tonal Energy
A very helpful app!
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Is anyone using the "Tonal Energy" app?  I can't remember if we've talked about it, here on the forum. 

I'm convinced it's pretty amazing. 

Elizabeth Knaub (Life From The Viola Section) talks about some of it's great uses for practicing in this video.

 

 

Love it's used here to play a chord drone for practicing 3 octave arpeggios!  (Play Violin)

 

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I just ordered it tonight. Seems to work pretty well and the green/yellow indication on intonation is very handy and really seems to help me when playing. Tuning is much faster than with the tuner I've been using.

I find it a little clumsy to get around in, but that is probably because it's new to me.

The old curmudgeon!

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I've been using it for a few weeks, after my viola teacher recommended it. The chord drone is also useful for nailing intonation in tricky passages in pieces. And the analysis feature is useful not only to tune notes but also to be aware of tendencies: I've learned from it that I have a tendency to play half-steps a bit narrow, for example.

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I hadn't installed the app yet because I'm such an idiot when it comes to tech - wasn't sure if I could use it on my laptop. 

Well, it's not a problem! 🙄 

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@ELCBK - It would appear to be only for phones and pads (iPad/Kindle/android pads) from what I could see on their website.

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@JohnG -

Thank you. 

Found 5 Ways to Download/Use Android Apps on Windows 11/10/8/7 PC [MiniTool Tips]

I like - Way 3. Mirror Your Phone with Microsoft Phone Link App, but still have to install 1st on my phone. 

🤭 will get Kevin to do it for me as soon as he's got a minute, tonight - so, we'll see.

 

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That's the only problem with a shruti box - you need someone to play it for you!

Yay, electronic shruti boxes are common nowadays!

"easier and less expensive than maintaining a live tanpura player"

Lol, they make it sound like a pet dog!

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...update. 

Downloaded the Tonal Energy app to my phone, Kevin took over & then downloaded the Microsoft Phone Sync on my Alien - it found everything on my phone EXCEPT the Tonal Energy app!!! 

I've been avoiding Windows 11, but will update now, while Kevin's off doing some other stuff - something about needing 'the insider's club' to get the android emulator (?)

We have a couple tablets for the Kids to use, but really want this on my larger screen - so, I'll keep trying to get Tonal Energy on my laptop. 

 

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I downloaded this to my Ipad--lots of stuff in it.   I'm going to try out the analysis thing this weekend.  

Thanks for the tip, @ELCBK !

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Not bad for the analysis part. Took a minute to figure out the interface though.

  i dont like the tones it generates.  much prefer a youtube video for drone tones in root, 5th, octave.. 

as far as shruti boxes...there are some shruti box and tanpura apps on google play.

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Darol Anger has drones on band camp for sale, all keys.

Two tonics an Octave apart and a fifth in just intonation. 

I bought them several years ago and like them very much.

Mark

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Not bad for the analysis part. Took a minute to figure out the interface though.

  i dont like the tones it generates.  much prefer a youtube video for drone tones in root, 5th, octave.. 

as far as shruti boxes...there are some shruti box and tanpura apps on google play.

  

 

You can change the tone that it uses for drones. I don't remember exactly how I did it, but I set it to sound like an oboe.

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ELCBK said
I've been avoiding Windows 11 

I have a gen 6 Pentium, so Win 11 is avoiding me.

Ugh, captcha thought a motorbike was a bicycle!

Andrew

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@Mark said
Darol Anger has drones on band camp for sale, all keys.

Two tonics an Octave apart and a fifth in just intonation. 

I bought them several years ago and like them very much.

Mark

I have those too Mark on my computer in practice room.  If its booted up thats what ill use mainly if playing to these type of tracks.  need to copy them over to the phone.  At least wouldnt have the youtube ad to deal with on the cello tracks.

@AndrewH i see that now!  the bass makes it a bit better and it sounds like you can add an octave.

  

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Gordon Shumway said

ELCBK said

I've been avoiding Windows 11 

I have a gen 6 Pentium, so Win 11 is avoiding me.

Ugh, captcha thought a motorbike was a bicycle!

  

and it seems like if I select wrong it punishes me by going to a lower quality image.

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Oops, forgot to update! 

Didn't download Windows 11, because I got sidetracked when I found there was a 'tablet mode' that could be set on my laptop.  Turned it over to Kevin for a day to see if he could find a way to get the tablet app accepted to my laptop in that mode - wouldn't let him download it.  Don't know what else he tried, but didn't work.  

He kind of discouraged from even bothering with Windows 11, but what the heck - I might as well try one last ditch effort this weekend, otherwise the app will just sit on my phone... pretty much unused. 😔

Geez, maybe it's time for me to start buggin' the company to make it work for laptops!!! 

- Emily

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A couple of things I really like about the TonalEnergy app. First is the elapsed time in the app so I can better keep track of how long I practice. Second is the bar at the top of the screen that shows in tune, kind of close intonation, and out of tune percentages to see if I'm getting closer. Felt really good tonight when I hit 46% in tune and 46% close when playing Wexford Carol.

Another thing is something that I'm going to try soon. Make a video concentrating on the TonalEnergy app screen and then playing it back to see WHICH notes have poor intonation.

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@JohnG -  

Great idea!

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