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Different Violins and Different Bows
So, I have three violins of different quality, makers and tones. I was playing them each this morning with each of my bows. I was actually kind of surprised...
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August 22, 2019 - 12:50 pm
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Different Violins and Played With The Same Varied Bows

So, I have three violins of different quality, makers and tones. I was playing them each this morning with each of my bows. I was actually kind of surprised because I was expecting differences, but not so much in a couple of instances.

I have a warm violin, a bright but not too bright full sounding violin, and my $50 pawnshop surprise violin. Pawny is like in between the two, but with its entirely different unique sound.

I have a Fiddlerman wood bow, can’t remember which, the Fiddlerman carbon that came with my bright violin outfit, and a JonPaul Noir* carbon. I used each bow on each violin with the same songs. I played in th same spot in the same room. There was a difference between violins with the different bows. I will try to remember what the differences were between each accurately. I was not planning on a post, so I did not make notes.

Fiddlerman Carbon Bow

With the bright violin, it was brightest with the bow it came with, the Fiddlerman carbon bow, and it was easier to bow with that bow. Using the same bow on the warm violin, I noticed some warmth lacking. It was still warm, but just a tad brighter. On Pawny, she was brighter, also, more so than my warm violin, though.

JonPaul Noir* Bow

With my JonPaul Noir*, my bright violin seemed just a tad warmer, actually, maybe a little less full. My warm violin had its lovely full warmth. Pawny seemed a little less bright, actually more towards warm and fuller sounding.

Fiddlerman Wood Bow

With my wood Fiddlerman bow my bright violin was too much warmer for my taste. It was purchased because of its full bright sound. It also lost just a little of its fullness. On my warm violin, the warmth was still there, and she seemed to have more oomph. On Pawny, it was lovely. Pawny seems to really like the wood bow much better than either carbon. She also had a whole lot more oomph.

To me, this was quite fascinating. I tend to like the wood bows. I like the feel in my hands. It was also the case with my cello bows, and is the same with my violin bows. I don’t know if I am imagining it, but at times, I can feel a vibration on the wood bows where my fingers hold it. I don’t know if it is a transference from the cello or violin, because it is also when they vibrate the most. I never notice with the carbon bows, but that may be me because I truly like the wood bows. Spot on intonation at those moments? Not sure why.

I have made some observations about Pawny in general also. They are not bow related, so I will use a different thread.

Does this make sense to anyone? Has anyone else noticed anything like this?

The Bumblebee Flies!

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August 25, 2019 - 10:58 am
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@Mouse - It's great that you can feel that different instruments react differently to different bows. There are people who work hard to pair their instrument with the right bow. Some people have a hard time hearing it while others feel it's obvious.

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August 25, 2019 - 1:18 pm
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I was surprised with the difference. It is still holding today. I know with my cellos, they are picky. My new-to-me cello Goronok cello, and final cello, that I got last month likes the mid range pernambuco. My Andrew Schroetter1983 likes the lesser expensive bow. They are completely different bodied cellos, so that made sense.

I may upgrade my violin bow for Rudy next year. FiddleDeeDee (the Concert Deluxe new name) likes the bow that came with it a lot, but I like wood. I am going to wait it out and see if I get to liking the carbon before trying to force wood with it. It just sounds happier with carbon, so, I will try to work with it. 

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Fiddlerman
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August 25, 2019 - 2:44 pm
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Very cool.

So we are referring to a Green or Yellow Sandalwood bow?

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August 25, 2019 - 2:53 pm
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Yes, that is it. It is the more expensive of the two. 

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Fiddlerman
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August 26, 2019 - 6:37 am
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cid said
Yes, that is it. It is the more expensive of the two. 

Our customers are loving these bows. We get a lot of complements from both players and teachers on these bows. 

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August 26, 2019 - 6:57 am
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I can understand why. I like it. Feels good when I hold it and bow it.

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