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Rookie Mistake: Help! No strings on violin.
Removed all strings and am panicking.
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kazeiyx
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June 5, 2019 - 10:48 pm
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Viloin: $69.99 Cecilio Mendini mv300 4/4

Very new to violin (received it a week ago but have only been able to tune & began learning posture/basics once so far due to time). Only had peg slipping issues during first tuning but no breakage.

2nd time tuning/dealing with slipping pegs again I finally snapped a string and without thinking removed all strings only to panic and seek help to which I find only articles upon articles of " Do NOT do this..." Instead of "If this happens try this.."

Hoping I can get some friendly advice on how to replace the strings in an order and process that will not put too much stress on any area of the violin.

Last notes:

Sound post did not fall [phew, little miracle!] and I currently have a clean lint-free cloth gently supporting the fingerboard; but I also haven't moved an inch out of fear.

Please help, and I am sorry to all those cringing at this post. I am right there with you.

-Kovi

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June 5, 2019 - 11:02 pm
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Kazeiyx,

Welcome to the forum, 

I'm assuming it was the E String that broke, start with the A string and put just a small amount of tension on it to help secure the sound post and bridge then do the G string finally the D string just have a little tension on them the stabilize every thing replace the E string and then start tuning up starting with the A then the D then G and finally the E string is how I do it. Also watch the bridge it will have a tendency to be pulled towards the finger board most likey you'll need the straighten it up as your tuning Fiddlerman has a video on changing strings and straightening the bridge if you want to watch it first. A little pencil lead in the bridge string slots and the nut slots will help the strings move across them as your tuning.

You'll do fine,

Mark

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June 5, 2019 - 11:30 pm
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Thank you so much for your welcome and also the response! 

The string that broke was actually G and I assume it was because of the amount of the G's peg slippage I battled with the first time around (which I solved by gently pushing the peg in while tuning) and I unknowingly weakend the poor string. The tuning held for the first attempts at practice but must have slipped again (possibly while returning the violin to its case). Lesson learned; I will be properly lubricating the pegs as I put them back in since I have them all out anyways.

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Another question I have about a completely naked violin is at which point, while putting each string back, should I try to balance the bridge back into place? I'm worried if it falls too many times it will knock the sound post down.

Once again, I appreciate your advice so much and am incredibly grateful that you took the time to respond!

-Kovi

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Kovi, once it's tuned up the first time and the back side of the bridge (the side you look at while playing) it straight up and down it should  stay that way for a good while take a peak every week or two and when it starts to lean forward straighten it up. We have all been there the first time like you.

Edit: just reread your post, once all the strings are on and just snugged up check your bridge to see if it straight up and down I some times lean it back ever so slightly to help compensate for it being pulled forward just check it after tuning 2 strings it should be ok still then after the last two, recheck your tuning, you'll  have to return several times as things settle down into place then a final bridge check after it all settled down.

Odd the G  string broke make sure you tune to G3 almost sounds like you tuned it an octave higher at G4

Mark

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Mark, unfortunately I must have worded my question a bit oddly. What I meant to say was, with all my strings currently off the violin, as I begin to restring each one at which point should I try putting the bridge into place? Do I need to try to keep it upright with the very first string or should I wait for maybe two strings just to make sure it has enough support/tension to stay upright? 

As for the tuning, though I thought I was tuning to G3 it may have been error on my part with the tuning app. Also after examining each string I'm finding them to be a bit on the poor side which I assume can sometimes happen when purchasing on the lower quality "student" scale. (My A string is also showing signs of fray and wear so I will be replacing it to be on the safe side. ) But it could also be that this is all new territory for me.

I apologize for any confusion it's getting late here 😣

Kovi

**UPDATED: 12:42AM**

I was able to figure out the restringing & bridge placement. Officially exhausted. Thank you for your help tonight, Mark. It made a big difference 🙂

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Welcome to the group, @kazeiyx So glad you got it all figured out! My first month, when trying to adjust my bridge, I accidentally knocked it over and my sound post fell. I was in a panick until I spoke with my local luthier. He had the sound post back up, bridge in place and violin tuned for me in 5 minutes. It was $20 well spent for me then.

Jim

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June 6, 2019 - 8:40 am
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Hey kazeiyx,
I saw this post too late. I could have made a video for you.
I'm glad that you worked it out. Welcome to the forum and good luck with your new journey. 🙂

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