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So I broke down and ordered one
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It's a DZStrad model 600.  Pernambuco, hand made (which appears to mean hand assembled given that they have one on clearance because one of the silver rings on the frog is missing a piece.  Which tells me that someone grabbed it out of a bin of parts when assembling the bow and it got into the bin because the frog-making machine operator didn't notice it when he chucked it into the bin in the first place), and with a higher quality bow hair.

We shall see if a better quality bow improves my playing.  Well, that and a few more years of practice...

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congrats on new bow!  

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Grats on the new bow.

Mark

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Exciting! Congrats on the new bow! 

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The new bow arrived yesterday.  I did some comparisons with my carbon Fiddlerman bow.

The DZStrad feels more "nimble" in the hand.  The balance point is about the same but the carbon bow is heavier overall.  They have the same curve on the shaft and the tips are the same shape.

 

@Fiddlerman  - what pattern does your Fiddlerman Carbon bow emulate?  Or is it a "modern" pattern based on a blending of classic bow patterns rather than being a "replica"?

 

I haven't even tried to rosin the new bow since I've done the typical thing and caught a cold for the holiday.  It sure is pretty though.

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"So I broke down and ordered one"

Ditto - I ordered a JonPaul Carrera yesterday. I'm hoping it will be my main bow, and my Coda GX will be my backup bow.

I'd read reviews of it a few years ago and kept the idea in the back of my mind since then, but then at the end of last week I randomly saw Pierre's review of it (worth watching for his explanation of the difference been stiff and flexible bows, although he could have said a bit more about the flexible ones). I found a British seller who had one for 60% of the American price! But in Britain there's no choice of stiffness. I queried it, and the seller said they only stocked the stiff ones, which is what Pierre recommends for mellow violins, so I ordered it after persuading myself during the weekend that I had to. It was the last in stock, so probably old stock, and I won't be able to compare a number of them, and I'll never have the opportunity again. I'm just hoping that it will have been a bargain - quality mass production won't have resulted in much variation - and I wanted it before the pound's weakness doubled its price. (I'm counting my chickens before they hatch, though, as I've dealt with the seller before and their packaging isn't great). A total gamble, then.

Andrew

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November 25, 2022 - 5:05 pm
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[email protected]  - what pattern does your Fiddlerman Carbon bow emulate?  Or is it a "modern" pattern based on a blending of classic bow patterns rather than being a "replica"?
  

It's more of a replica. To be more precise, I took measurements, graduations, weights of my favorite bow (Albert Nürnberger) and sent this information to a company that replicated it. From that information a bow making factory in China made 5 bows for me that were supposed to be similar to my specs and I chose my favorite.

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
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Fiddlerman said

It's more of a replica. To be more precise, I took measurements, graduations, weights of my favorite bow (Albert Nürnberger) and sent this information to a company that replicated it. From that information a bow making factory in China made 5 bows for me that were supposed to be similar to my specs and I chose my favorite.

  

That's totally cool!

 

I finally rosined the bow yesterday and played it for about an hour.  The tension screw is smooth with no slop or that gritty feeling a lot of bows have when tensioning the hair. The hair looks different.  The grade is said to be AAAA rather than ungraded hair and it has this wavy appearance but it's smooth.  It took the rosin (Pirastro Gold) very well and rosined up quickly.  The winding uses a finer wire.  It's very smooth compared to the carbon bow yet I didn't have any slipping issues at all.

Overall it feels very familiar in my hand but I suspect that almost any bow would.

Playing was lots of fun and it's definitely more nimble than the carbon bow.  I can even do spicatto with it using a standard bow hold, which I can't do with the carbon without using a Celtic bow hold.  Granted, it's terrible spicatto but my spicatto is terrible anyway even on my best days.

I did have to adjust my violin tilt because I was seriously double stopping across to the D string while playing on the A string.  I was doing it almost all the time even when I was concentrating on not doing it.  Flattening the violin stopped that.  I don't know if it's simply because I'm not used to the new bow and/or the weight as  the underlying reason or not.  Time will tell me what is which and I can either re-tilt or leave it if it continues to work out.

I also think the sound/tone is better but my strings need replaced so who knows if it is or isn't.

I need some PEG too.  My Fiddlershop order wishlist is being compiled and once it's complete I'll forward it to Santa to see what she thinks I deserve.  It's possible that I might not have been all that good this year so maybe a lump of coal is in my future.

Or not.  We'll definitely know in a month.

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LOL, I hope Santa is kind to you then. 😁
Thanks

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LOL, I hope Santa is kind to you then. 😁

Thanks

  

Santa is stingy.  When I was young I wanted the world...

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Maybe the world is yours RDP....

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but the one who needs the least."

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Well, I do have a world atlas...

 

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