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Would love some help jus with violin evaluation
Finding out valuation, app. date and whatever I can about Thomases violin.
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(First, I do not know why I put the word JUS in the title but cannot figure out how to delete it, sorry.)

I just upgraded to a "better" violin from a local luthier for my son Thomas(he is the actual member here, and loves the videos). Every few months, we take his violin in, and we give him another 4-500 and he is kind enough to allow us an upgrade each time, which works out very well,considering he gives us full value of what we paid previously. Anyvay, we swapped his previous violin with one priced at $2000 . But when I contacted DZ Violins a couple of times in the past week, speaking with two different men, they could not help us much other than to say it was made before their online store began, which was 8 years ago. They said that the yellow tag is no longer used and they think it may be over ten years old because there is no model number written inside. Below, find the exact wording on the label and as much of the label as I can take a picture of. It has boxwood pegs, chin rest and tail piece. Boy, anything from age to price would  be extremely helpful. I just think the shop owner we bought it from overpriced the violin. Don't get me wrong, it is an extraordinaryDSCF6552.JPGImage EnlargerDSCF6546.JPGImage EnlargerDSCF6547.JPGImage EnlargerDSCF6548.JPGImage Enlarger

violin and the sound is amazing. But something is rubbing me the wrong way and I cant explain it.Thank you so much. Here is what it says on the label: The yellow label inside this 4/4 violin exactly says and in this order verbatim:                                                                           

'50 years old spruce strad violin

"soil" 1714 violin maestro

DZ America Inc. 4/4'

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March 8, 2022 - 9:46 am
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If you post this on maestronet they will tell you exactly its worth and history, tell them what you told us.

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March 8, 2022 - 11:55 am
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I just spent some time on the site but have no clue where on there to ask that question.

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post it in the peg box, you will have to join to post but its free, the experts on there are the best in the business, they are sometimes haughty so you may have to be a bit thick skinned, or they may all be in a good mood lol, the fiddle you have is obviously a copy of a famous strad the soil is its name, which you probably already know, to be honest I dont know if there is any age at all to it, it may be a new chinese copy, which isnt bad but at over 2 grand  it would be expensive. The only way to find out is ask them on there really. Looking at it I think its fairly new but I could be wrong.

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March 8, 2022 - 12:57 pm
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TY. DZ DID admit they made it though. They just arent sure how much it was when it sold, exactly how old it is and what it is worth.

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March 9, 2022 - 12:02 pm
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I think in this case, be happy that it sounds great.
You say that the shop owner always gives you full trade in value which is actually pretty darn good.
This might be a reason that the new violin "seems" overpriced. Everyone has to make some type of profit to stay in business.
I won't get into what the instrument might be worth since we are competitors but the ultimate goal is always to be satisfied with both the way the instrument sounds and it's ease of playability.

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

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March 9, 2022 - 4:55 pm
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TY Pierre. I guess it isnt the price that I am most interested, so I should have worded it differently. I am most interested in knowing anything about it actually. DZ just couldnt give me any info other than to say they strongly believe they made it but do not know how long ago and they have no records apparently, which is odd. 

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