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Looking for Viola Scale Book Recommendations, please
I am switching from cello,lessons,to,viola lessons and m looking for a couple good viola scale books
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cid
July 25, 2020 - 3:48 pm
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Could someone please recommend some good scale books for viola, both ebook versions and hard copy. 

I do not want a simple scale book that just deals with the first position or two octaves. I am looking for something on the par of my Klengel Technical Studies for Cello, or my Popper books. Unfortunately, neither comes in anything but cello. 

I have Müller Rosch but, it is really not a scales book. I have googled and checked Amazon. Nothing in Amazon really gives you a good description, or any sample pages with the pages with any of the scales.

I am not interested in any of that Abrams or whatever it is that you get graded on. i am only doing this for myself, not to compete or perform, etc. I must mention that to give you an idea of what I am looking for. Not sure how relevant it is, but hear that mentioned a bit.

Yes, I know those scales in my Klengel and Popper could be turned into alto clef, nut really, I am not interested in doing that. I would like to get a book before my lessons start Aug 7. I am working on honing my finger placement before I start, and really would like to do some scale work. I know pretty much how my instructor worked the scales for my cello lesson. I like the Klengel and Popper he used for cello.

Thank you for any suggestions. In the meantime, I will keep looking, also.

Viola Time! 

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I'm not familiar with those cello scale books. But maybe look into the Mogill and Flesch scales for viola. (Mogill is based on the Hrimaly scales for violin.) Galamian is also good, but for more advanced players.

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What is Hrmaly? I am not familiar with most of the people, systems, etc most people mention on this site.

I will check them out. Thank you for your prompt reply. 

Viola Time! 

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July 25, 2020 - 4:39 pm
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Thanks, @AndrewH! I just ordered the Mogill. I Googled the Hrimaly and was actually able to see a good sample of pages for the violin one. It seems exactly like the ones I had for cello. Keeping my fingers crossed that the other pages are similar.

Thank you so mich. 

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Hrimaly/Mogill is a beginner to intermediate scale book, starting with one octave scales and going up to three octaves, with relatively simple exercises to add to the basic scales.

Flesch and Galamian are the two most commonly used intermediate-to-advanced scale books for violin and viola. Now that I actually look at them (I usually just practice Galamian-style three octave scales and basic arpeggios without the books), I realized that both are more accessible in some ways and less accessible in others, so I wouldn't necessarily say Flesch is easier as I implied before. The two sometimes use different fingerings, and differ somewhat in the exercises they include. The biggest differences between the books:

* Galamian includes 2-octave scales and one-position exercises, while Flesch does not, so it can be used without having started playing three-octave scales. (This was an error on my part earlier -- I thought it was Flesch rather than Galamian that included 2-octave scales.)

* Flesch writes out everything in standard notation and organizes things by key (all the exercises placed together under each key), whereas Galamian has only note heads and organizes things by exercise (all the keys under each exercise). This can make Galamian difficult to read when you start practicing exercises beyond just the basic scales.

* On the other hand, Galamian includes an insert with a one-stop list of bowing and rhythm variations, while Flesch just prints each scale using an example of a bowing or rhythmic variation and assumes that you or your teacher will come up with other variations to practice.

* The thing that distinguishes Galamian more than anything else is the practice of "acceleration scales" where you start with one note to a bow played very slowly, then play the same scale with two notes to a bow, and so on. In theory, this can continue until you are playing the entire scale in one bow. (Galamian adds turns to the beginning and end of scales to make the number of notes divisible by as many smaller numbers as possible, 32 notes for 2 octave scales and 48 notes for 3 octave scales.)

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July 27, 2020 - 2:47 pm
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Sounds about right to me. 🙂

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but the one who needs the least."

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Should get my book Thursday. If I didn't need things to be so structured, I would be able to just scales by looking them up. I need the book to look at. Plus, it has the different ways of playing them.

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