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Convince Me To Do YouTube
I have some questions about YouTube that some of you may be able to answer.
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March 29, 2019 - 12:45 pm
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I have a few questions about YouTube. I have been reading about it and am still a little concerned. I will number my questions.

  1. When you create a YouTube account, what information does YouTube collect? I mean, it is free, they have to get money somehow. Are they scouring my contacts like Facebook does to “enhance” your enjoyment? (I do not do Facebook)
  2. To be able to post them on the forum, for forum viewing only, do you make your account private or unlisted? 
  3. Do you have to state whether a video is private or unlisted each time, or is the default what your account is set for? I only want them to be able to viewed with a link, not by anyone willy nilly. (Darn! I should have used Willy Nilly for my username! LOL)
  4. Are videos able to be downloaded from the forum? I don’t want my videos to be downloaded by anyone. I have not tried to download anyone’s videos on the forum, and do not intend.
  5. If I want to delete a video after it has been posted a few months, do I just delete it from my Youtube? 
  6. Will it be removed completely from wherever it is stored forever?
  7. Do I have to find the post and delete the post, or edit the link out? I don’t want to leave my videos up forever.
  8. Where does the video get stored when I upload it to YouTube? 
  9. YouTube does not have access to my photos album on any of my devices, does it?
  10. If I decide I do not like it, when I cancel the YouTube, will all my videos be removed from wherever YouTube stores them, or do I do it one at a time?
  11. I am really not into internet accounts like YouTube, Facebook, etc. Try to convince me that a YouTube is okay. Could you tell?

Thanks.

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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Hey @cid.. I guess first off they way you are posting your clips now forces us to in fact download them to watch.  I have to delete them once Im done watching.  You werent sending me a virus were you !?? 🙂 

As far as posting on youtube...heres a suggestion.  Go to google and create a new gmail account..say mycellovideos.  Make sure you give it a password unique to only it.  Never use it for anything but your music video post.  Once all that is done when you sign into google that signs you into youtube...unless i missed a step..even if i did you can link that new cellovideo google account to youtube.

Anyway.. Once signed into youtube there is a menu item on it called dashboard.  From there you can select upload.  The FIRST thing it ask is whether you want it public, unlisted, or private.  Youll want unlisted.  Private more difficult to post and basically involves sharing other peoplevto the video I THINK.

is it able to be downloaded...well yes sorta..someone could subscibe to pay version and download i believe.  But, what youre doing now is no different.  If you want to delete a video you are able..you could also change to private and at that loint is unviewable.. 

All that was just a quick suggestion..there may be some not 100% correct info there so just kinda double check.

Greg

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March 29, 2019 - 1:33 pm
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 No viruses, Greg, you are good. 

So, I need to make a new gmail account and be logged into that one before going to YouTube so the YouTube account will be linked to that YouTube account and not my personal family and friends gmail account.

When I upload a video, then I state that it is unlisted, there is no default. 

Has anyone heard of any hacking of YouTube accounts? I don’t think I ever heard of any issues with it, but I might have missed it. 

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I use the "Google drive" storage space rather than youtube. I don't know if there's a real difference (since it's all Google-things). Here's how it works, anyway.

- It comes automatically with any gmail account : create the account and login to the site "drive.google.com". You can upload your videos and decide how you want to share them :
- either by anyone with a link to the video
- or only by specific people
- or by you alone (no sharing).

- If you choose the link sharing, then there's an "advanced" option to disable download of the video (this is not the default, but something you have to specify for each vid).

N.B. any video, "unlisted" or not, can be downloaded from youtube. There are several "youtube to mp4" kind of websites that do the job. I just tried with an unlisted one, it works. I found no way around the "no download" with google drive, so that'd be one difference.

- If you want to stop sharing the video (say, after a few days), you just disable the sharing option.

 

I don't know about the rest, if deleting a video (bin) really totally deletes it forever, and such. But it's an account I don't use much (certainly not with family, or for important things), and since I don't do any of the social facebook twitter things, there's not much info that can be linked to it. I never gave google my phone number (it does ask for it, but it's optional)... I take care to disconnect from Google right after I've done whatever I need to do with it (so that it doesn't track me).. so it can't know much about me. That's what I tell myself in any case.

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@wtw  It sounds like google drive is more private. I might give that a try. I just redid Jingli Nona with YouTube, but it just is not sitting right with me. I come across youtube videos when I am not even googling for any, that concerns me.

Thanks

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This is the YouTube Help Area. See the Manage your account & settings section. It should answer just about all of your questions.

https://support.google.com/you.....ic=9257107

Jim

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Any You Tube video can be downloaded ( I do it frequently ).

Once you have posted it (even if "unlisted") anyone you have on your "trust list" (not a REAL list - just depending WHERE you share the link - YOU must have "trust" in to whom you are giving the unlisted link) - like if you share it on the forum - then any one of our (at this very moment in time - 19,9953 members) could, if they cared to, download it.   

They'd end up with an .mp4 file, pretty much an exact copy of your originally uploaded video.

Once in the down-loader's hands - they can do anything with it.  The ones I download are "generally" only for "musical-play-along-purposes" - although - on occasion - yes - AND WITH THE ORIGINATORS PERMISSION I might add - I have edited the video to include a "play-along" part.... ( like this one ) - where Diane (@kindascratchy) had no idea that I had downloaded, video edited an intro and outro, and video edited her part, to include my  play-along), until I had done it (and kept it private, for her agreement - before making it public on YT) - here's what can be done to ANY YT video with or without agreement by the originator - - )

Depending on the "width/number" of folks viewing an unlisted video - well - as the number knowing the link increases, sure, the chance increases of it being "re-transmitted" ( or indeed edited in some way )

Not sure who mentioned this - think it was @GregW - sure - if you have "concerns about what is (or can, unknown to you be) shared"- probably a neat idea to create a separate gmail ( aka "google" ) account for YT posting.... (just "fake personal details" when creating the account - most people do anyway even on their primary account, cos we all know how that data is used for ad targeting and so on)

I have NO issue capturing ANY video from ANY internet source - I always use one of the many available free downloaders - BUT - if I ever come across a music vid I for some reason I want to have, but cannot download ( never happened yet ) - I can STILL go to my video editing software and simply record video and audio from whatever is streamed to screen - that cannot be stopped.... can't be...

Really, once published, with an accessible link - anyone who has that link (YT or G+ or ANYTHING) can get it ( for whatever reason they have )

I know, that's probably NOT what you want to hear...  it's just the way it is I guess... (until each and every one of us has an implanted ID chip at birth, readable by an RFID scanner, wifi, or bluetooth connection to anything we post...  Hahahaha - I see both the up-side and serious down-side to this idea I freely admit !!!!!! )

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On the other hand, why are you concerned with someone downloading your videos?  Like, has this been a problem for you in the past?

 

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I had 142 videos uploaded and a bout of paranoia caused me to start deleting.  I now have 1 video up, the first, that I have tried to delete on multiple occasions but can't.  I cant delete my account or start over because I  have had it for 15 or so years.

It is my problem video because it is stuck on public.  Cant change it although you usually can.

Good luck.

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I have to be honest here and say I don't understand the paranoia of anyone having videos on YouTube. What is someone going to do with them? I am not trying to give anyone a hard time; I just don't understand the "fear" of having videos on YouTube, especially if they are just videos playing an instrument. Perhaps I am naive or just don't understand, so anyone who can explain it, please do so. I am truly at a loss here in trying to understand such a mindset. Perhaps I don't understand. Thanks.

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Youtube has a feature where you can blur objects and faces.  Fairly easy to do just another step.  Hopefully there isnt anything to worry about here though.  I mean this is a beginner learning violin  forum that has a history of users posting progress videos. Riigghht?!  Surely the coworkers wont stumble on it... 🙂  they wouldnt recognize me without the clown mask anyway.

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I'm with MoonShadows. I don't understand the fear of Youtube. You can set your video to unlisted, which means only people with a link can see it. If it's downloading the video that worries someone, I don't get that, either, because when you upload a video straight to the forum, you have to download it to see it (which I personally never do, I'm not loading a giant file from someone else's computer onto mine).

I personally don't care if people I know stumble on the video. They know I'm learning, so who cares, I'm not in witness protection, or doing anything offensive (except maybe to the ears). 
 
I personally like Youtube because it makes it easier to share with people on the forum, but leaves the option to keep it private on the Youtube platform (if you want, I usually don't).

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100% with you Mandy @damfino

I don't post anything, anywhere, on ANY social media, other than my attempts at playing fiddle and sharing my journey.     ( Oh, OK, I'll correct myself - I do very occasionally post "my thoughts about something" on FB or an occasional "just for fun" image to IG - but that's just because I'm a rebel at heart, and rage against the status-quo ( not the group, of course who were awesome - even with only three chords (or an occasional 7th... lol)  [ hahahaha - THAT vid must be about 30+ years-on from the original - he has less hair than me now.... but, 'nuff said about that) and the ways "The Times they are a'changing" - but that's just me !!!!  Old and angry ! ( nah, not angry, just "engaged" with current, and changing, world politics )

I'm not .... doing anything offensive (except maybe to the ears). 
 🙂  You've never offended my ears Mandy !!!!     Great progress for just a few years in to playing, and always a pleasure listening to you play !!

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For me to delete was a personal issue but we're all friends here. When life is wonderful and fine again, I'm going back out on the road to try to get my comedy obsession started again. The videos I had up were  well over 4 hours of my material, my intellectual property. I have schizophrenia and other mental issues going on that really don't go well with repeated brain damage but it does make for good stories and the sound of laughter is better than any drug.

I was in Nashville last year and a guy was on stage doing my jokes nearly word for word.

There is no real legal recourse I could have taken, so I had to just deal with it. When I got out of jail I deleted all my videos.

On a positive note, I am still dating my high school sweetheart,,,,,,, and this March, she might graduate. 

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LOL Mark. Did he use that one too. 😉

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Fiddlerman said
LOL Mark. Did he use that one too. 😉  

He used them all. Including this one.

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LOL

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but the one who needs the least."

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damfino said
I'm with MoonShadows. I don't understand the fear of Youtube. You can set your video to unlisted, which means only people with a link can see it. If it's downloading the video that worries someone, I don't get that, either, because when you upload a video straight to the forum, you have to download it to see it (which I personally never do, I'm not loading a giant file from someone else's computer onto mine).

I personally don't care if people I know stumble on the video. They know I'm learning, so who cares, I'm not in witness protection, or doing anything offensive (except maybe to the ears). 
 
I personally like Youtube because it makes it easier to share with people on the forum, but leaves the option to keep it private on the Youtube platform (if you want, I usually don't).  

@damfino I appreciate your reply, but other than Shane's "tongue-in-check" responses (at least I hope they were), no one has been able to answer my question. Even the OP has not responded, but has deleted the video and become silent on this subject. Too bad. I even PM'd the OP, but she never answered me. I am not looking to create a conflict; I just want to know why all the paranoia (or should I write "concern" to be PC?) about YouTube Vids? I have YouTube vids, too (https://www.youtube.com/channe.....olmN-bWTUQ and https://www.youtube.com/channe.....1wS1d7J-OA). Is there something I need to know, am unaware of, or am overlooking? As I wrote in my earlier post, "Perhaps I am naive or just don't understand." 

Folks, what is the problem with uploading our violin efforts to YouTube?

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Guess its all what youre comfortable posting.  I think the process helps you more than anything.  Seeing and hearing your playing I mean, although it doesnt take an upload to youtube to accomplish that..but you can get feedback that way.

Shanes post reminded me of this video Paul Davids posted recently and whats going on with alot of the online backing track creators and teachers.  I could see where it would leave a sour taste about youtube.

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Starting a YouTube channel requires a lot of creativity, first of all you have to find your own style, what kind of videos you are going to post, and if you want to get somewhere you have to be consistent with said videos. There are a lot of great examples of YouTubers that got to the top by being consistent and by following trends, for example PewDiePie, Jacksepticeye, etc. Although I don’t recommend that you follow their trends since you might receive some hate for being a copycat. Try aiming for lesser known YouTubers that do something interesting and have it work out. As an example, I could give you Rebecca Zamolo, she is a girl who does 24 hours challenges, about hiding in place, about spying and different kinds of training. She has an entire series about such challenges and that on its own is proof that it’s working out for her.

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