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exactly

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belly laugh time. thanks, guys!

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Here I go again.

The first dog (likely in ancient China), the first thoroughbred horse (in England), and the first human with blue eyes (Europe), were the products of genetic mutation.  The first dog had to be an extraordinary animal in that it’s worth needed to justify the sharing of meat with the adopted human family.  

Subsequent dog breeds are, of course, evolutionary.  I think most of it occurring via copious “red neck geneticists” that looked at norm deviant animal pairings and thought, “gee, that might be interesting.”

Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.         —Frank Zappa

It is unpleasant to be thought so uncleverly unclean and capable of poisoning a whole city.—Sir Walter Scott

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Irv said
The first dog had to be an extraordinary animal in that it’s worth needed to justify the sharing of meat with the adopted human family. 

Well, it was so close to the wolf that perhaps it was still a hunting animal and could feed itself or even hunt for the human group. In fact, it's easy to imagine that hunting dogs were all that interested people initially. Pets may well only have come about after the neolithic.

Is this a good place for me to lecture on the difference between taming and domestication?

Domestication is where you tame animals and eventually they have tame offspring. Wolves and cows are a good example of domesticable animals.

Elephants are tamable but not domesticable - you can always tame a baby elephant, but they are never born tame.

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@MoonShadows lol!

I think at least some of the point of my post which Irv and Gordon took into deeper territory is that in many ways they are us.......... I have two Yorkies which I might post pics of if I can find some. Word has it that they were bred in Yorkshire England as dogs to chase and kill rats in factories where rats could do lots of damage.

My two can jump over 2ft high straight up and aren't afraid of heights. For instance, they will jump on a chair, jump from the chair to the table and on to another table of there is one close by. True to the breed, they will go into places larger dogs can't fit looking for little critters when I let them outside. They can be imposing because they run at any stranger growling like they are going to eat them, then they stop to be petted. Can be scary to someone who doesn't know they won't attack.

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starise said
@MoonShadows lol!

...which Irv and Gordon took into deeper territory...

I know

My two can jump over 2ft high straight up 

The other half had an English Bull and a frog pond. The first time the dog saw a frog in the grass, it slowly approached, sniffing. The frog jumped back two inches. The dog bounced back two feet at a 45 degree angle.

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An interesting (and likely unpublished) fact regarding beagles.  The breed is so perfect (for what it is) that parents and subsequent offspring can be inbred until the researcher loses interest without genetic defects.  

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I guess I don't really know much about all of the breeds in general. You two certainly know a lot. 

My very first dog was a Collie, looked exactly like the old Lassie. On the show "lassie".

At the time the dog was almost larger than I was. I remember that breed being very docile and calm. Then I had one other dog in my teens that was a smaller dog. I couldn't identify the breed except to say it was a smaller dog. Poodle sized, short hair and black with some light brown tints over its eyes. Didn't look anything like a poodle. Looked more like what I refer to as a "wiener dog" like a little black hot dog with legs.That dog was also very loving quiet and docile. We kept those dogs outside all the time even in the cold weather. That wasn't my choice. My parents were old school like that. They always kept all animals outside. I remember it getting pretty cold outside at times and I remember feeling sorry for that dog.

Next in my late 30's I had a Chow Chow. Impossible to ever see the skin on it the fur was so thick. This is not a good dog for warm climates. Could probably survive in the arctic with that thick coat of fur.Usually docile unless you surprised it from behind. It might swing around and bite you then. Barked constantly at everything. 

These last two Yorkies I have had for maybe three years since they pups. From the same litter yet very different personalities. It's going to be tough when something happens to one of them because they are so accustomed to being together.

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We named him fluffy.

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Hey @GregW and others.  Come summer, if you want to have some fun in the neighborhood, put up some cat found posters with the following description and photo.

Large cat found on (fill in the blank) street.  Does not have a collar.  Does not respond to any of the common names.  Does not like to be picked up or petted, but likes to play dead when threatened.  Really enjoys eating canned food.  Telephone (fill in the blank) if owner.  Getting tired of taking care of it because lack of house training.0B1EB243-B903-4F8F-9A9F-A047353C1BA0.jpegImage Enlarger

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@Irv  once they are moved to dog food it becomes easier...finally had to take curtains down due to the fact tthat they couldn't support the constant weight during sleep cycles..

 

seems like a good place for this...ladies and gentlemen...George Jones

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I loooove animals........Our latest addition to the family - Scout!

Found her on the outskirts of a random town, a ranch owner had thrown out a bag of food so she hadn't starved....they begged me to take her to the pound for them so she wouldn't get eaten by coyotes - I sent my husband this photo, he said no more strays... but it was too late, I was already home....he adores herIMG_0178.jpegImage Enlarger now!

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Mimi Aysha said
I loooove animals........Our latest addition to the family - Scout!

Found her on the outskirts of a random town, a ranch owner had thrown out a bag of food so she hadn't starved....they begged me to take her to the pound for them so she wouldn't get eaten by coyotes - I sent my husband this photo, he said no more strays... but it was too late, I was already home....he adores herIMG_0178.jpegImage Enlarger now!

  

We had one like that.  This is Buddy.  He was a stray that showed up one day and adopted us.  The picture was taken the day he showed up for his missing dog photo. No one ever claimed so he part of the zoo now.

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Oh what a cute looking Buddy! He's like, you are my new fam! 

.... I was only in trouble for about 30 seconds, I think the best ones are strays...

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Yeah Scout looks hard to resist.  I'm thinking scout was the one running around in your video?  Buddy does that when I play fiddle but goes for the door.  

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I can see why you both adopted those two. I hate to see pets discarded like that.

Can I claim to have been pushed over the edge here? Irv? 🙂

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I would think this one might be hard to miss.

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OMG Starise, those are hilarious....

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