"Is It Necessary To Know Theory, Proper Technique, Circle of Fifths, etc, To Enjoy Your Playing"
I play for fun
I like studying therory from time to time just for the why sake of it all. It seems more helpful to me on guitar though. guess because of chords. The Fiddle music that Im interested in is just straight up melody of tunes already established so not much to try and figure out. its fun just playing. unless Im not liking the tune. ...if i dont like a tune its harder to practice it and get better at it. Therory can be helpful..but also become a time drain better spent just playing in my experience.
Im not sure on the technique part. If a person is happy just playing and is satisfied then it probably doesnt matter. If a person is having a hard time with something..maybe its technique and help would be needed. idk..depends on the person and situation i suppose. I know having a teacher there to see and hear at the very moment I struggle playing something has been helpful in that she can point out what im doing wrong and how to try and fix it.
I hope I'm not repeating myself since I know I've weighed in on this (or similar) subject before. I can relate, since I've been trying to stretch my little finger further for 16 months now - it's not stretching anymore!
From what I've read, I'd have been hard pressed to find a teacher even willing to take on a beginner with a 5-string violin! Now this leads me to wonder, "how many good teachers out there learned as an older adult?" How many teachers can really understand we may need a different approach to help with issues they may not feel important even as THEY, themselves age? As "Older Adult Beginner/Learners" should we consider a need to be taught differently - maybe in a separate category by ourselves?
Oh no, NOT GERIATRIC lessons! I'm not ready for that mindset! We aren't children being told "learn an instrument" - along with age comes inherent issues. Actually, I'd love to hear if any 64 to 80-year-old feels their body is as supple, or if they'd make the same choices/have the same priorities as when they were 20 - or do they think about "time" differently...
A cache of "Life Lessons" gathered over many decades should help us feel confident we can reach any goal by adapting or working around our perceived shortcomings - using a little ingenuity!
No teacher for me right now, but I'll adapt however/whenever, so I can enjoy this whole wonderful process - otherwise why do it?
I'm pretty sure we can all figure a way to "take a leap" - jump to those notes we can't stretch for... and, if you don't want all your hard work to go to waste, PRACTICE EVERY DAY - even if sometimes it's only 15 to 30 minutes before you go to sleep!
This Fiddlerman site & shop is truly underrated - such a HUGE help to so many!
Hopefully we'll all find a way to adapt as needed, with or without a teacher, so to end up content to enjoy & share the music we love... just play!
Is it necessary to know all the theory to enjoy making music? Absolutely not.
I would say all really good 'ear' players who can improvise and such like DO have an intimate knowledge of all the scales and how they relate to each other though - even if it's 'on the job' training rather than learning formally from books.
cid - I know I ramble on - this is why I'm not a teacher! I basically agree with you.
I believe if you want to learn to play music you've heard, but have no interest in composing music that can be understood by all not hearing it played first hand, you still need to understand some "fundamentals of music", but not ALL of them. You need some understanding of "pitch" & "intervals", then "rhythm" for "melody", otherwise you just have sound (not music). Someone who plays an instrument should also be able to distinguish differences in "tone" to at least be able to tune it, otherwise you need to do everything electronically (I still need that tuner!). I think anyone can learn to play an instrument if they can get a handle on these few fundamentals - along with watching/listening to musicians for techniques and style.
Rudamentally, for some of us "ABLs" (adult, beginner/learners), do we need to know "1" specific way to comfortably hold our instrument - or the names of notes, or even the names of the strings? They could be labeled "1", "2", "3" and "4", but you still have to be able to find where the individual sounds on the strings are located to learn a melody. So, if we learn to hear and see/feel where our fingers go - by plucking the strings or drawing a bow, remembering a sequence and repeating it... Voilà!
Many "ABLs" are happy learning/playing simple melodies, others want more - at least we live in an age abundant knowledge and help is readily available to everyone!
I believe it's important to not loose sight of why we chose to play an instrument - we enjoy music... so we need to keep this process enjoyable.
Music is composed of aural phenomena; "music theory" considers how those phenomena apply in music. Music theory considers melody, rhythm, counterpoint, harmony, form, tonal systems, scales, tuning, intervals, consonance, dissonance, durational proportions, the acoustics of pitch systems, composition, performance, orchestration, ornamentation, improvisation, electronic sound production, etc..." (Wikipedia)