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Fiddlerman rag almost final version getting bored with it now
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Just a little rag time I composed bored yesterday, or was it day before, toomuch apple pie and ice cream to remember its addled my brain

https://youtu.be/0mdQ7AaZmVM

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@stringy -

Fiddlerman rag - Critique Corner Thread

Fiddlerman rag reposted - Critique Corner Thread

It's nice to see your progression! 

Keep working on timing/rhythm/phrasing - the more you play it, the more you'll sort this out. 

Why the rush? 

Your composition could be a GREAT opportunity to try something new with bowing! 

 

 

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Yup, I do tend to rush things Emily you are right there, doesnt help forgetting your own tune in various parts as well,what I will probably do is publish it again in a few weeks when It has become second nature, and its not such a mess which at the moment it is, fairly embaressing when I watch it to be honest but thats what practicing something is all about. usually takes me quite a while. Its funny you should post the thing about staccato bowing, I have actually been looking at trying that out, good idea. 

The main reason I have thrown this one together is as a practice for double stops, and shifting, which you have probably noticed already, as well as adding in the blues scale runs, its a bit strange when you can actually have an idea and then have to learn how to play it, I find the two fingered double stops particularly hard but I am now starting to get the hang of them.

I read a very interesting thing about Paganini the other day, apparently he wrote his caprices before he could play them, so maybe there is hope for me yet lol.

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@stringy -

I think you are doing great with the double stops & shifting - I really notice, I'm working on them too, but they are overly stated in your piece because you are working on them (I do the same thing). 

Maybe look to these violinists/fiddlers to find a treasury of different bowing & ragtime phrasing/dynamics - so many gems that can be observed & heard. 

Aaron Carter - 12th Street Rag  The foot tapping at the beginning really helps to hear the strong beats.  I dream of having a wrist like this!  Sometimes it looks like a wet noodle it's so loose!  All the control she has, so close to the frog for staccato double stops.  Plenty of 4-note slurs, etc...

Ragtime & Swing on The Fiddle Thread

I'm just getting to where I can really appreciate all that has to come together for this music. 

Just try to look at it differently, so you keep playing this piece (along with your others) without getting bored. 😊

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@stringy

Your piece is sounding good—I’d encourage you to document what you’re doing.  You may want to capture what you are creating now.

Also, when you see the notation in front of you, it slows you down and gives you a different perspective, and can help you work out/decide on variations, etc.,. 

Whether hand written (here’s a website that has free music line paper you can print out) or if you use a software like Musescore, I think you’d find it useful.

https://free-printable-paper.c.....ic-sheets/

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@stringy - Once again fun stuff, sounding good!

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stringy

I like it, it has the rag time feel for sure.

Nice piece, thanks for posting it.

Mark

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@stringy -

I must apologize - I think I came across WAY too preachy and I don't mean to. 

For what it's worth, these are things I would say to myself - if I were playing this.  This is YOUR composition, so nobody really has any right to 'critique' it.  You have your own style, but I hope you'll dive into ragtime more.

You are doing really well with your composition - and, you definitely improved with each video.

I would hate to see you quit working on it. 😊

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Thanks all for the comments, always appreciated. 

Sharon Its a great idea to write it down but I struggle reading music, dont know how I would go about writing it. Its like most of the tunes I write, I usually just play them over and over and hope I dont forget, its like the ones I wrote on the bouzouki, cant remember what I played now if I tried to do it again because I didnt play it again for a good while, may give it a go though.

Emily no need to apologise for anything, you give me some good advice, thats why I posted it in the critiç section, other people see things that I dont. One of the reasons I sometimes take vids down after a few hours is because when I first play back what I have recorded, I think it sounds ok, and then after a few hours when I have disasociated myself from the tune I see all the mistakes, even vids that I have left up I am not really happy with, but thats a case of not having enough years practice under ny belt, if I live long enough I will get good at it, but its frustratingly slow compared to other instruments. When I play things back at first I am actually hearing the tune in my head rather than whats coming from the instrument, only discovered this recently, odd.

Mark, I used ro play a fair bit of rag time picking on guitar at one time, havent really touched guitar since I started on fiddle though. Might record something like the piano player if I get time, I am a lot better on guitar than fiddle, though that doesnt say much lol.

John, thats the idea mate fun, when that stops I will stop playing, cant see that happening though:)

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stringy said
Thanks all for the comments, always appreciated.

 When I play things back at first I am actually hearing the tune in my head rather than whats coming from the instrument, only discovered this recently, odd.

🤔 don't think you are alone.  I'm always taking a moment to ask myself, "am I just hearing what I want to hear?" (lol)  ...even when I'm just tuning strings! 😳

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Sounding good, stringy! Especially loved the slides!

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@stringy - 

YES! 

That IS awesome! 

Really well played! 

More!  More!  More! 

Thank you - wonderful composition! 

 

...now I feel like partying! 

- Emily 

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Thanks John and Emily for the support, I have been listening to different bits of rag time fiddle on you tube, some great players, think its sounding a bit better than it was now. All good fun ;)

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@stringy -

I could tell you made a huge improvement with your rhythm & you did a great job of smoothing out your double stops & the shift/slide - also looking relaxed now you are more used to playing it. 

Think you did a great job making it a rag! 🤗 

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stringy

Definitely has the rag time feel!

Good work on creating that tune.

Thanks for sharing it.

Mark

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@stringy nice playing on that - bet that's closer to the sound you had in your head, right?  I'm liking the slides!  Great work on it smile

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You are bang on sharon, what I hear in my head is what I hear on the fiddle when I play , until I play it back that is, and then I am amazed as it doesnt sound anything like what I heard as I recorded, its quite a phenomena.

It really takes some getting used to, never known an instrument like this, I can play tunes on a fretted one of any description in about ten minutes, but this really is something of a wake up call,

Just edited this post because I just re read it ànd realised I didnt get across what I meant, or it may have been taken the wrong way, which isnt what I intended. And I dont want to offend anyone.

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With a title like that, why have I never heard of this rag before. 😃

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