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Using the whole bow
Trying to get to the tip!
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Katie L

March 12, 2022 - 7:39 am
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… and to the frog and be as smooth as possible. This is what I’ve been practicing after a few days. I’ve always found it hard to get to the tip but I’m thinking I’m getting there . Also trying to lead with the wrist and keep straight.

Jim Dunleavy
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March 12, 2022 - 8:17 am
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Looks good to me. Your bow isn't straight at the tip, but I've seen many pro players do exactly the same thing, and it seems to work fine (maybe the critical thing is keeping the contact point in the same place on the string?).


March 12, 2022 - 11:20 am
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@Katie L -

It's hard to see what's going on because we can't get a 3 dimensional view and I'm not sure if what I see is an optical illusion.

I get the feeling you'd be more comfortable if you dropped your elbow to a more relaxed position. 

'If' you are bowing crooked, open up your arm more towards the tip.  This involves the upper arm reaching more forward as the elbow opens and hand turns to the left.

If the scroll end of your violin is a little too far left for you to bow comfortably, 5 centimeters toward more in front of you might make all the difference in the world. 

As Jim says, if your bow isn't sliding along the string sideways - then everything is probably fine.

Katie L

March 12, 2022 - 12:30 pm
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That’s great advice thank you Emily and Jim😀 yes get what you mean about elbow really is not relaxed ! I’m thinking I’ll do another vid when I’ve done more practice on this. And yes need to keep the contact point the same. It reminds me of a time I pressed record to play something to share on here and on the first note the bow slip right across the strings down the finger board ha ha !!


March 12, 2022 - 12:49 pm
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@Katie L  I spent a large part of last year focusing on my bow.  Bow awareness.  I  talked a bit about it some in this thread:


In the end, I think you need to find what sounds/feels right to you & your body, & that can take some time.  I think you’re figuring this out since you indicated in another thread some discontent with your shoulder rest.  You may be moving more.  I know that I move my shoulder in & tilt my violin some to get to frog on G string, & then move back as I play a long down bow on this string. 

Characterize people by their actions and you will never be fooled by their words.

Katie L

March 12, 2022 - 5:22 pm
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Thanks Sharon I liked reading through the messages! I have my shoulder rest set up how I like it but it is in one place all the time - I can’t play at all if it’s constant moving. Saying that though, I am open to trying different things so I will have a  go at moving a bit to get to the tip. I’ll have a watch of the video as well. Also like Emily’s idea in the thread of doing some open strings at the beginning of every practice. 

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