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I guess we got off topic on this one, but if there is a real market for it, we could have these titanium tuners made as long as there is no patent or similar on them. I might look that up later.

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vaguely on topic. I purchased 100 wooden truck wheels to use with carriage bolts in order to make violin top clamps. Its worth the slightly extra cost to not have me be cutting and drilling holes.

Also truth be told I'm not sure how much physical activity I can endure. Truth be told the reason why I'm so down about my violin is the fact I went through a terrible car accident that has left me with a concussion (amongst other issues). So learning how to play my violin (or attempting to again) was kinda a healthy use of my time.

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Batto said
vaguely on topic. I purchased 100 wooden truck wheels to use with carriage bolts in order to make violin top clamps. Its worth the slightly extra cost to not have me be cutting and drilling holes......

Sounds like a great idea. How much did they cost you?

Sorry to hear about the accident.

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Fiddlerman said

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vaguely on topic. I purchased 100 wooden truck wheels to use with carriage bolts in order to make violin top clamps. Its worth the slightly extra cost to not have me be cutting and drilling holes......

Sounds like a great idea. How much did they cost you?

Sorry to hear about the accident.  

22 dollars for 100 of them from Ebay. A bit on the overkill side yes, but the ability to make fifty clamps for a fraction of the price you see them made online is a positive. 

Also I like making my own stuff, and lets face it taking a wooden dowel and cutting 100 sections of it of in 1/2 inch thick sections is time consuming. 

When they get here I'll post pictures of the clamps. Its really simple and frankly with using the wheels you don't even need to be truly technically minded.

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I like it. Good job. Very ambitious too.
Looking forward to the pictures.

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I decided to be ballsy and jumped right in. The results were pleasentimage002.jpgImage Enlarger.

But yes. It has full corner blocks and everything looks nice. But there were a few surprises.

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Theres a crack here its tiny, but its where it goes under the neck. I'm not sure how to fix this

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3/2008 funny it took 11 years for it fail exactly.

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The two pointed earlier out cracks were repaired, but the top is gorgeously made.

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here @Irv the inside you wanted to see closer up.

 

I'm really relieved to see how nice the inside of this violin looks, and the fact the corner blocks look original to it. I have no idea what country this violin came from or where it was made.

Anybody have any idea now that it's open?

 

:edit: theres also a small crack leading up the bass bar. it stops directly before the bassbar. I took a flashlight to the top and yeah it stops directly before the bassbar so the bass bar actually stopped this fine crack from expanding. I'm suspecting this came from the fact that the seams opened open and the chin rest was squeezing the area looks fixable.

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I believe that the area of the rib repair is represented in the last photo.  It looks like glue was dabbled by the use of a long brush from the f hole.  While the plate is off, it may be useful to remove excess glue from this area and glue a few maple cleats across crack.  Make sure that grain is 90 degrees to direction of rib grain.

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And the addiction begins...

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steveduf said
And the addiction begins...  

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I believe that the area of the rib repair is represented in the last photo.  It looks like glue was dabbled by the use of a long brush from the f hole.  While the plate is off, it may be useful to remove excess glue from this area and glue a few maple cleats across crack.  Make sure that grain is 90 degrees to direction of rib grain.  

It was always present, but now I have the motivation and the tools to do so.

 

Makes sense as I have evidence to believe the rib was cracked by somebody fighting the chin rest too much and crushing the rib. So a quick (OH CRAP OH CRAP OH CRAP) moment with hide glue and a long bush seems possible... if it is even hide glue.

Still I'm really pleased with what I see. I was afraid I'd see false corner blocks but seeing properly fitted ones that look original to the violin is a positive sign as well as the smoothness of everything, that combined with the symmetrically book marked back tells me that somebody took their time making this violin.

Now I just need to wait for the rest of my tools to arrive. One of them arrived but that won't be used for this violin. It's a Stanley 102 planer, it's what a lot of violin makers recommend to use when planing fingerboards so that will be more helpful with the German trade fiddle.

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I can see Fiddlerman anxiously awaiting a violin sell after viewing those photos.  

Seriously, you might want to scrape the old glue off the mating surfaces to save some weight and to provide a more secure surface for new glue.  

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Irv said
I can see Fiddlerman anxiously awaiting a violin sell after viewing those photos.  

Seriously, you might want to scrape the old glue off the mating surfaces to save some weight and to provide a more secure surface for new glue.    

thats the plan. Well except for losing this violin. Thats not an option..

and besides the fiddler man is making a sale via the high quality sound posts  he sells and the rosin. I need to see though when my tools are arriving.

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These aren’t as antiquey looking but available938C5DAF-5A99-4822-846D-0D1BBF212CA3.jpegImage Enlarger  

these ones look used, where did you find these? I have found a part of a project so destiny is calling for a project.

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Batto said

these ones look used, where did you find these? I have found a part of a project so destiny is calling for a project.  

I apologize, I just realized this,  these are mine

you can have them for 20 bucks delivered in the US.  Here is the damage to the violin they were installed onE2989E6B-58B1-463A-9299-98EDC7142797.jpegImage EnlargerD9E924DB-04F6-45AC-A316-8510F2FC3EDA.jpegImage Enlarger7AA1F0F3-AF5C-44AB-B5E3-8B7F065307B1.jpegImage Enlarger

i will not ever install them on one of mine

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Hey @steveduf , here is a real looker for you.  Don’t know if they dipped the head in melted lead for that medieval repair touch or had at it with liquid metal. 4311008D-AABF-46F6-B706-E8343BD1922B.jpegImage Enlarger

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Looks like it was done by a dentist.

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Irv said
Hey @steveduf , here is a real looker for you.  Don’t know if they dipped the head in melted lead for that medieval repair touch or had at it with liquid metal. 4311008D-AABF-46F6-B706-E8343BD1922B.jpegImage Enlarger  

Looks like some J B Weld , lol

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Irv said
Hey @steveduf , here is a real looker for you.  Don’t know if they dipped the head in melted lead for that medieval repair touch or had at it with liquid metal. 4311008D-AABF-46F6-B706-E8343BD1922B.jpegImage Enlarger  

that's a bit on the special side to say the least.

I do wonder how much that affects the sound of it. Can't do wonders.

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They don’t call it a glue up for nothing.  An obvious adherent of the saying, “the bigger the gob, the better the job.”A7F95F45-FD20-413C-8D76-065E6A8CE6EB.jpegImage Enlarger

Research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I’m doing.  —Werner von Braun

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