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I just got my first violin and I really like it (not the sounds I've produced this far, but I've heard that learning a violin is supposed to teach you patience :D). I have a rosewood/jujube chin rest and tuning pegs, with an ebony tailpiece. I was curious as to what both Amazon and eBay had to offer on the order of a whole "set" - chin rest, end pin, tail gut, and tuning pegs. I saw some where the holes for the mounting bracket were pre-drilled in the chin rests, but none of them had pre-drilled holes in the tuning pegs. Is that common?
Secondly, I have seen some videos showing how a chin rest is replaced, as well as how to restring a violin, but where does one drill the holes in the tuning pegs? I have yet to see anything on that, and I was wondering if anyone here had actually replaced any or all of the parts mentioned above that could answer my question. Not that I'm actually worried about that yet - I still have to learn proper bowing, but I'm looking down the line and like the non-ebony look but want all of the pieces to match each other in both wood type and color.
Thanks in advance for any and all replies
Welcome to FM ...if you look at pics in Ferrets post on peg taper it may answer some of yer questions ...i think Pierre has some videos on some of the other stuff ...there are many folks here that can answer yer questions as well but there's nothin' like a good video fer clarification ...other vids online as well ..
There is also plenty of vids here to help you get started playing as well ...Have fun Be happy
Hi and welcome. The first Crescent violin I bought had the string holes in the pegs offset (which means the workman wasn't doing his job correctly) and the wood of the peg box was not hard enough so that the peg gouged it's way into the peg box as I was pushing in while tuning the string. Eventually the string coming out of the peg hole was rubbing against the peg box which made it necessary to drill new holes. I pushed the peg into the box, saw where I wanted the hole, marked it and drilled it. The peg stood out farther than I wanted so I rolled the peg under a razor blade to cut off the excess, filed a radius and colored it with a sharpie. On a new peg be aware that it will seat itself 1 or 2 mm into the box as it settles, but you can use your current pegs as a guide as to where to drill. Again welcome.
Thanks for all the responses. I think the best approach, for me, is to order them not pre-drilled and let a local luthier drill/shave everything so as to get the best fit. That's probably a little ways down the road, but thank you for all the information y'all have provided. I can now make a much better-informed decision what that time comes.
For those of you that have replaced these parts, from where did you purchase them? I'm just curious which "better" options than eBay and Amazon exist. Additionally, if your choose was between boxwood, rosewood, and jujube, which would be your choice and why? I'm just trying to weigh all of the options and would rather ask actual violinists than try to read between the marketing speak I can get off different websites.
Thanks again for any and all responses.
Thanks for your response. I was really alternating between rosewood and boxwood, although my wife would probably say that I need to concentrate on actually learning to play what I have, before I try to change parts out
I have rosewood tuning pegs and chin rest, so I could just replace the tailpiece, but if I were to get a complete set (chin rest, tuning pegs, tailpiece, and mounting hardware (fine tuner(s) would also be a plus), I would have a backup in the event that anything would need to be replaced. Some of the tailpieces I've seen have a carved design in them, making it more attractive than a "normal" tailpiece.
I have one last question about tailpieces. Mine is Tulip-style ebony. I understand that there are also Hill style (English) and French style. Does one style make a better sound than the others? I tried to research this, but got a little confused. I don't think there's a real consensus, although it appears that a thicker, harder wood seems to make a richer, darker sound.
Thanks again for all the responses
I would say if any one thing would help you with playing your violin it would be the chin rest. Start by taking off your chin rest then hold the violin in a comfortable position for you to play it. Have some one note where your chin is and then find a rest which duplicates your position.
As far as where to buy these things, http://www.fiddlershop.com or international violin are my first choices.
The pegs. Like you decided let a luthier do them but have him or her show you how to do it.
Rosewood although being the softest of the woods to me is the most beautiful. I did fix up a violin witch I put all rosewood parts including a rosewood fingerboard and gold fittings. To me it was beautiful but I knew the fingerboard and pegs would never last as long as ebony before the fingerboard needed to be planed again so I left the fingerboard a little think.
Aloha Kevin and thanks for your reply,
I apologize for getting back to you so late, but I wasn't really expecting any further replies
I really like the rosewood color, but am leaning more towards boxwood, as it is a harder wood. I don't have any particular opposition to ebony, but as the violin is a brownish color, I think brownish colored fittings would look better. It would help if my playing improved, though, as my wife would be more amenable to replacing parts then
I still haven't decided any anything other than the tailpiece at this point, but I need to get a better shoulder rest (I have a Fom at the moment) before I do anything else.
As for the luthier, he would have to show my the tools he uses as well as the technique used to shave and drill the tuning pegs and chin rest.
Speaking of chin rests, I would be interested in knowing what type y'all use. I have a Guarneri chin rest, but have seen lots of different types, some of which are centered over the tailpiece, and some that are only slightly offset from the tailpiece (and not as large as mine).
Thanks again for any and all responses.
Just got back from picking up another center chin rest ...like the first one enough to get another fer a different fiddle ...could be where yer headed ?Have fun Be happy Oh , by the way .....chin rest may be the correct name but it could have been called jaw rest as it's more about the jaw than the chin ...