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Does anyone recognize or decipher this label
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91D9ECC1-C42E-40D8-81EE-B1C8D4A5F928.jpegImage Enlargertrying to figure this label out.  Looking at this violin (in  parts)40E8BE0D-37EC-4430-B7E0-6B13C8F9DD4F.jpegZ

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I took the photo and lowered my brightness and much as it would go with my iPad and did a screenshot. Then I brought it into photos and did some different tints. Maybe these shots will help:B0D6EADE-593F-4932-A0F9-DC98D2E3286A.pngImage EnlargerDCA33620-0574-427A-89E7-32CBC0E9D48C.pngImage Enlarger43B7C574-267C-4957-A158-3739F55CE5D5.pngImage Enlarger8415827C-D521-4E64-890E-7DE82A95EE76.pngImage EnlargerE2A54B49-DC98-40B3-B314-8F8D1525C5DA.jpegImage Enlarger

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I noticed the 1800 simething anf Googled 1800 violin makers. One if the names is:

FENDT, BERNHARD SIMON (SIMMON), London, b. London 1800, d. 1852.

Could this be the name? Bernhard S Fendt

The label looks like Bernhard S Fendt

I have been lookimg for a picture of a label, but have not found one.

Here are a couple links I found.

https://tarisio.com/cozio-archive/browse-the-archive/makers/maker/?Maker_ID=962

http://www.reuning.com/bernhar.....830-violin

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I think cid nailed it.  Only question now is father or son?  

It looks like the son had a relationship with Dodd the bow maker.  Did it come with a bow, by any chance?

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Is that a Jr at the end? There is a lot of space between each section of the name and there is a lot of space between the last name and whatevwe it is. Looks loke a “J” something.

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I believe the case is solved... basically.

The violin is in shambles, but I’m getting confident enough on rebuilding them.

no bow or case.

i also have a violin I bought a year ago probably, it has two repair stickers in it. One dated 1908 and the other dated 1819.  I have not attempted it, until I am confident enough to do it justice

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I have found a couple labels but maybe were the fathers and are pretty rustic.  Hoping to find a closer match3E1F10CF-5054-4724-9D4E-E1CF617D733B.jpegImage Enlarger701EA7CF-9D44-4F00-BFC9-29F35811DC47.jpegImage Enlarger

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And of course as labels go... could be just another copy, opinions if you have one

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I would say father because son was born in 1800 died 1852 from TB.

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cid said
Is that a Jr at the end? There is a lot of space between each section of the name and there is a lot of space between the last name and whatevwe it is. Looks loke a “J” something.  

Cynthia, I believe you nailed it!A186E0EA-8432-47BD-BDA9-FB4ECEEB382F.jpegImage Enlarger

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steveduf said
And of course as labels go... could be just another copy, opinions if you have one  

They look pretty old and yellowed and faded. Does the ink look like the type of that time period? 

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I am glad we nailed it. I would have been trying to figure it out all night! lumpy-2134

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Looks like Mack may have a year or two of college paid for there.

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Irv said
Looks like Mack may have a year or two of college paid for there.  

Lol, I think this is probably more realistic24573547-D690-4985-8633-A89E028C8FB8.jpegImage Enlarger

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@Irv

irv I sent you an email on this...

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Well, it should be better than the ones I buy.  With a little work, I can double my money on them—from $30 to $60 LOL.

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I got blown away in the auction, thanks everyone for your help

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steveduf said
I got blown away in the auction, thanks everyone for your help  

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Here is the EBay auction, it was at 220 pounds going into the end.  I bid 400 pounds in the end at closing and wasn’t even close.

you can take a look what kind of shape it was in13324CBF-3119-4EF1-9035-B2F7ACC2FD1D.jpegImage Enlarger

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