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worn out violin
pegs wont stay tight
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@Shane "Chicken" Wang I do know the reference to the George and Gracie reference.  But remember how George Burns seemed to live on forever so he was even alive for my childhood and much of my young adult life!

But I digress. And this topic has gotten wayyyyyyyy off.  

My old teacher used rosen powder from old, crushed rosen to tighten my pegs.  I think I will get peg dope next time.  But my pegs seem to be holding well for now. Also, it requires releasing the string entirely to apply the dope or whatever material you use, so I prefer not to do this unless it becomes absolutely necessary.  

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Andrew Fryer said

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Hoping my situation is about to change, heading back out on the road this spring. Going to give comedy another shot.

Believe it or not, my violin teacher has started attending a class in stand-up comedy!  

@Gordon Shumway you are in for a treat. The best thing about having the comedic teacher, is that they will try their material out on everyone they know before they put it on the stage. I'm brutally honest on jokes to save them from the bomb cause the bomb hurts. the bomb make will make you cry into your pillow. But don't try to be funny and help rewrite the joke. Just say, pretty good, just needs to be polished up some more. Seriously, we love to hear that.

In musician speak, I was at a funeral in La Place, Louisiana, It's kinda like an Irish wake, but sad. Everyone was forcing drinks on me to toast the deceased, I'm not a professional drinker. You play the durge on the way to the cemetery, real sad and somber, you'll play a bright happy tune on the way back, like when the saints go marching in. I was so drunk on the way I passed out or blacked out, when I woke up I busted out into the best loudest rendition  of saints you ever heard. Even the cason driver stopped the carriage to stare at me. All I could say was, Not yet???

I bombed hard. Humiliated, cause that is the equivalent of peeing in a catholic confessional. 

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pchoppin said

My old teacher used rosen powder from old, crushed rosen to tighten my pegs.  I think I will get peg dope next time.  But my pegs seem to be holding well for now. Also, it requires releasing the string entirely to apply the dope or whatever material you use, so I prefer not to do this unless it becomes absolutely necessary.    

I pulled the pegs and put some lava soap in them. Now my son tells me he wants to learn also and since it was him wanting, my mother orders him a vso, 30$ came in a couple days ago and it's doing the same thing. but in the peg holes it's gunked with either shelac or poly or something. not wood on wood. I was going to see if I could clean that out but it is possible they built it up because the whole was to big. 

If he keeps treating it like it's an original strad, I'll be buying him a Fiddlerman fiddle.

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This all reminds me that I need to ask my teacher.

I put Hidersine peg dope on the pegs of my first, $50, fiddle. But also I jammed them as hard into their holes as they needed for them to stick. My teacher said graphite from a pencil is as good as peg dope. And someone on a different forum swears peg dope is designed to make the pegs slip, not stick. Which contradicts what an amateur cellist friend told me - he even used the word "stiction". But I haven't checked whether pushing them in hard is the right thing to do.

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@Gordon Shumway our own Fiddlershop has peg dope and tuning pegs https://fiddlershop.com/produc.....gJFmvD_BwE

The product descriptions answer your questions and notice that tuning pegs are tapered, and therefore should be able to tighten by friction when properly installed and when the holes or the pegbox are not damaged. 

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@Gordon Shumway I have seen in several videos by fiddlerman, danielav, and this one creepy guy that thinks he is the worlds foremost expert on paganini, that it is good to use graphite like a lubricant on the bridge and nut to help keep the strings from breaking by allowing them to slide easier. On the other hand, I have heard people say to use the graphite to smooth out a sticky peg with peg dope.  bit confusing to me.

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Yeah, graphite on the bridge and nut I completely understand.

I don't quite understand the pegs yet.

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Andrew Fryer said
This all reminds me that I need to ask my teacher.

I put Hidersine peg dope on the pegs of my first, $50, fiddle. But also I jammed them as hard into their holes as they needed for them to stick. My teacher said graphite from a pencil is as good as peg dope. And someone on a different forum swears peg dope is designed to make the pegs slip, not stick. Which contradicts what an amateur cellist friend told me - he even used the word "stiction". But I haven't checked whether pushing them in hard is the right thing to do.  

Yes, they are designed to keep the pegs from sticking but also not to slip. I know this from much experience. 🙂 It's a thicker paste and acts both ways.

Peg drops are designed for both as well but IMAO, they cause the peg to stick and click. I'm not a fan.... Never tried the graphite trick though.

We only use the Hill peg dope and never the Hidersine.

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