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Nicola Benedetti
beauty & talent
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September 19, 2014 - 2:39 am
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@Barry  thanks for "getting it" ;)

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September 19, 2014 - 3:02 am
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A hot young talented violinist in a evening gown playing like Hillary does for such venues as the Pope of all people, is just downright sexy in my book. Brains AND talent.

Inspirational direction for me came from David Garrett though and in his own way I hear that some women find him handsome... I wouldn't know... I just admire his classical roots and his crossover manner of attracting a world wide crowd.

Both of these world class fiddlers are physically animated on stage... so what(?) I love to hear them BOTH play and whether it's on youtube or actually in person at their concerts, I like it.


"If you practice with your hands you must practice all day. Practice with your mind and you can accomplish the same amount in minutes." Nathan Milstein


September 19, 2014 - 5:21 am
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To re-route back to the original post.. Yup, she's def a good player, Barry. 

And I see once again we have some folks worrying about something being "the ruination of classical music in our time" or something.  LOL

I remember similar arguments and worries at the school lunch table among the school band kids back in the 70s when a pop/disco piece became popular called "A Fifth of Beethoven".  However, it seems the world didn't actually come to an end then and it probably won't now, either.

There always seems to be some great concern by a few people about ladies playing violins in evening gowns.. Well, what else would they wear?  I doubt the few that are bothered by it would like them any better if they wear jeans and a t-shirt or a full suit of medieval armor or anything else.  Silly me, I always had the absurd notion that probably something like evening gowns were what ladies *did* wear to play "Classical" music.

I would agree with the point that has already been voiced that assuming that males can only be listening to young ladies playing violins while wearing evening gowns for some reason other than enjoying the music is more than a bit sexist.  I think at least a good number of the males on this forum also listen to or watch Itzhak Perlman, David Garrett, Joshua Bell, for example.  I would not assume that any of us have (to put it politely) "romantic designs" on them either.  Heck, I don't think any of us have even been properly introduced to them (or the violinists who happen to be young ladies), so the notion is a bit absurd.  LOL

Or are we saying that young ladies shouldn't be allowed to play violin, or that no-one should bother to listen to them because they are female or young?  I think that would be an even worse attitude.

There is a difference between a performance/show angled at the popular music audience and a symphony.  Either may make use of violins, however, and I don't see why this should bother anyone.  Watch or listen to what you enjoy, whatever you like.  What's the problem?

There is room in the world for more than one genre of music.  if someone wants to think that *only* their idea of "Classical" music is what matters, I think that is their loss.

And having spoken of Itzhak Perlman..

I know, sorry, it has been posted on this forum more than once before.. But Itzhak Perlman playing "some down home fiddle" with John Denver, and he does actually move around a bit.. Not even wearing a tuxedo!! 


"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman

September 22, 2014 - 11:30 pm
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Dear all,


I feel I must comment on some of the replies to my posts about lady violinists. 

First of all let me point out a few facts:

(1). I am a big woman fan, I am no male chauvanist.

(2). I am married for the second time around, first time was for 29 years and now 11 years almost.

(3). I love to see woman in cocktail dresses and a nice pair of high heels (or not).


However I feel that because of diminishing interest in classical music and concerts, backstage management have simply done what was done in the pop music industry 15-20 years ago with girls bands, e.g. The Spice girls etc., etc.

Yes I know that girl bands appeal to both sexes, but it did boost record sales considerably. So what works in the pop business must (I think) work in the classical music business.

Let's face it Nicola Benetti looks a lot nicer on stage than Maxim Vengerov, yes or no?

People are naturally more interested these days to see a nice young lady leading the way, rather than a man.

It has added colour to the fading palette of classical music.

Stiff guys like Jascha Heifetz, Nathan Milstein and the like simply wouldn't cut it these day, just too technically perfect and non moving, it's boring (not my words)!



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September 23, 2014 - 6:44 pm
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I can't believe what i'm reading. There is nothing wrong with a woman in a gown who is performing. As far as being sexy,,, nothing wrong with that either, it 's what they want, they want to be noticed. 

Not only does it attract men, it also attracts women. I love watching a good looking chick in an evening gown who can perform. (let me clarify that) Musically.

Being a sexist, I don't even know what it means. Am I one?.. who know's, maybe. I'd rather see a woman in a evening dress than a woman in a pair of bib overalls, but either way they are women and I am man.  Been like that for a couple years now.

Here's an example, notice the women in the audience. Think any of them aren't jealous, not only of how she looks, but of her talent.



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September 23, 2014 - 10:18 pm
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awh Ken.. I love her playing and her unique  bow hold.  :)

Thanks for posting.

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September 24, 2014 - 3:43 am
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Maybe I'm greedy , but i want to learn from and enjoy listening / watching every ones   " Way of Going " . I won't be pigeon- holed ...

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September 25, 2014 - 8:36 pm
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Once again, a warning for all to give your opinion, but do not attack another persons opinion.

Chinafiddler, I too find some of your remarks sexist.

Don't assume that people enjoy a talented female violinists performance for her appearance only. Have enough respect for other members here to see that their opinion is just as valuable as yours. Appreciation is individual and varies from person to person. I had the privilage of having lessons with Ida Haendel in Miami and even played for Dorothy Delay at Cincinati Congress of Strings in the 80's, and can tell you that their input were equally valuable to me as any male teacher that I have ever had.
I too am impressed by most of the women artists whose videos have been shared by our members. I am not paying attention to how they are dressed. I had to recheck the posts to see if I was missing something.

It appears to me that perhaps you feel as though women have an advantage because of men with small brains, as you put it. I am not sure you understand how difficult it is at times for women to get great jobs equal to what a man of the same caliber will get much easier.

As far as movement is concerned, there is actually a place for it IMAO. Movement can enhance playing if done correctly. Bad movements obviously can hinder a performance. If you watch these guys closely (when the camera angles allow) you'll see them move together at times making both the performance and sound more musical and exciting.

I don't think anyone here will deny that Heifetz was an incredible violinist.


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