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Gordon Shumway said
I am not a fan of emoting.It comes in many forms, some genuine and some utterly fake.
Emoting can be a substitute for musical expression. Clearly you have to make music first and emote (if you must) second.
Even in Vengerov's case I feel his emoting isn't really all that necessary for the sound he produces, although he is genuine.
Plenty of top performers don't, and don't need to, emote, and emoting is usually for the audience's benefit. Even a pianist can emote for the audience where it has zero musical effect. You can pretend to vibrato on a piano key. It does almost nothing, but the audience sees it and goes with it.
For me, if I hold back expressions I am faking a bit. I'm not in the same ballpark as a guy like Vengerov. It's like trying real hard not to laugh or cry. But I do understand what you are saying. I had plenty of colleagues that felt the same way as you do.
"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."
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@Gordon Shumway Listen to Carlos Santana speak on the screw face of music. He says when you forget about the audience, and become a part of the music, Allowing your soul to speak through the notes, your soul wants to fly. Like a rocket ship taking off, the face changes and contorts from the g-force, and in music the face changes and contorts from the soul blasting off from the body. In order to make beautiful music, you have to make ugly faces.
I'm sure Carlos Santana was exposed to way more drugs than I have ever seen to come up with an explanation like that, but I can identify with what he was saying. Haven't you ever gotten so far into a song you lost track of time and space? So caught up in the emotion of the music you had that get off my toe look?
I'm not faking it for anyone, I don't care enough about the visual to do so. I have run in at the last minute, sped through everything so I could get out as fast as I could. Didn't help the music by any means because there was no emotion to it and no need for it. I had drunks at a bar telling me I was better than Slash playing Sweet Child of Mine and I wasn't even plugged in, and wouldn't play lead if my life depended on it. Just had a volume control clipped onto my belt, and walked around in the crowd.
On the flip side, I have been playing, usually saxophone, and have gotten so involved in the emotion of the song, and become so shaken by it, we had to take a break so I could regain my composure. If I emote with a sax it is real, with a bass or rhythm guitar, you were watching someone else because it's just notes.
If I made the kind of money that Vengerov made, I don't know if I would come out laughing hysterically, or crying from joy. I know I would be hella emotional when I went to the bank.
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Pretty neat performance, both by soloist and orchestra.
'Armed with theory, practice becomes meaningful. Through practice, theory becomes fulfilled.' - Egon von Neindorff.
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Here is Fergal Scahill, I love his style of playing. He did a fiddle tune a day series back in 2017, and is doing it again this year, but seems to only be posting the videos to Facebook and Instagram.
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World's Okayest Fiddler
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Thanks for that @damfino ... excellent !
I'll be checking that out 
I seriously recommend not copying my mistakes. D'oh - 
Please make your own, different mistakes, and help us all learn :-)
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I like this one where Hilary Hahn plays for the Pope:
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Nice!!!
"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."
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I've taken a liking to this gentleman recently.
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It's easy to play any musical instrument: all you have to do is touch the right key at the right time and the instrument will play itself. Johann S.Bach
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AnnyJ said
I've taken a liking to this gentleman recently.
I can see why... very cool, thanks for sharing the link 🙂
I seriously recommend not copying my mistakes. D'oh -
Please make your own, different mistakes, and help us all learn :-)
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HP said
Pretty neat performance, both by soloist and orchestra.
Small orchestras are cool. I like this a lot.
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Not classical per say, but I've been watching this quite a lot lately. Jump to 0:52 if you wanna skip the talking.
'Armed with theory, practice becomes meaningful. Through practice, theory becomes fulfilled.' - Egon von Neindorff.
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This one was randomly recommended to me. Can't say I'm disappointed, it's probably one of the best Fratres performance I've seen.
'Armed with theory, practice becomes meaningful. Through practice, theory becomes fulfilled.' - Egon von Neindorff.
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@bocaholly . Per our previous discussion. Check out the bridge spacing on the violin Maxim Vengerov is using on the video back on page 4 of this thread. The g and e strings are parallel to the edge of the fingerboard. Very unusual.
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. —Frank Zappa
The future is already here—it’s just not very evenly distributed. —William Gibson
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@Irv I see what you mean.
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@Gordon Shumway Thank You! That was fantastic! I love how she gets right into that music. When I do that, all technique and know how goes out the window. I love the quick flick of her head a few times to get her hair out if the way. I also love those short little few second rests where she rests her arm on the cello.
She was fascinating to watch, as well as how the entire orchestra played together. Great video.
Cello and Viola Time!
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