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hello all fiddlers, I'm new in these parts, and Mr. Fiddlerman suggested to register here, so here I am! i'm new at playing the violin, started last Saturday, memorised the fingering in an hour, and learned amazing grace (my first violin tune) in 30 mins. i'm 15 years old, a roboticist and a hobbyist, and i also play the piano, I've got a cheapo 44 quid violin(i'll attach a picture soon if you want to), but don't worry, i'll sell it and buy a new and much expensive soon! I'm currently practicing on playing classical music on the violin and i don't have any teachers except for an online one(Fiddlerman), so a big thanks to ya!! 
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Welcome Ozimous
Don't rush on selling that cheap violin. Give it time and you will know what you want from a violin and for now use the one you have and we can help you make that one sound better and play better as time goes on.
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Hello and Welcome..you are making great progress. Congratulations and Welcome. Have fun on the forums.
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Welcome ozmous,
Great that you took my advice. Look forward to your posts and progress reports. Any questions here and you'll get plenty of answers.
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but the one who needs the least."
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wow, 15 and into robots... awesome.
Welcome my friend and enjoy your stay here. It's going to be a fun ride.
"If you practice with your hands you must practice all day. Practice with your mind and you can accomplish the same amount in minutes." Nathan Milstein
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Welcome ozmous.
I would agree with Kevin.. Figure out what you want to be better about the cheaper violin before rushing to get a more expensive one.
Violins are fascinating instruments. Even a cheap one is a pretty cool sawtooth waveform generator with pressure activated analog sensors and a rather elegant (if somewhat quaint) acoustic amplification system made of little more than few hundred grams of wood and a lot of interesting mathematics.
Good to take some time to explore the one you have so that you'll know what you want when it is time to upgrade.
"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman
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thanks everyone for the warm welcome 
@kevin M & DanielB, i know, specially for it's my first violin, but it sounds awful! it's not just me, but my friend (who is also a violin player, and a semi professional one) dislikes it as well! well, i've found a more expensive one for 99 quid in the mall, and it sounds and looks sweet! @DanielB, acoustic violins doesn't have any "analogue sensors", well, electric ones does have piezoelectric disks.
@Fiddlerman, special thanks to you
@everyone: thanks!!! you can call me Keith btw, Ozmous or Ozmous Ferous is just a latinised version of my name
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Hi, Keith! Welcome! 
Good luck with new violin =)
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hello, welcome. Sounds like youve got the smarts for sure. At your age you should be able to pick up the technical aspects of playing in no time for sure. Just remember, you will have to transcend the technical side of playing to master the art of playing. Dont rush, take your time and enjoy.
"Please play some wrong notes, so that we know that you are human" - said to Jascha Heifetz.
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Yeah, probably simpler to describe it as an analog controlled oscillator and amplifier, unless one maybe views the bridge as a transducer relaying impulses resulting from the events of fingers on the strings to the plates of the body of the instrument.
And agreed that "sounds awful" is definitely a good enough reason to upgrade quickly. LOL
"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman
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Welcome, Keith! Looking forward to reading your posts and seeing some video. Good luck!
When the work's all done and the sun's settin' low,
I pull out my fiddle and I rosin up the bow.
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note: it's as ugly as it sounds....
i might get a buyer next week, and when i get my new violin, i'll be very active at this lovely forum!
the ugly thin in our country is that, you will never have a chance on buying vintage violins, you can only buy one brand of violin, it's hard to look for a new brand, and there's not that many violinist here in our city....
cheers! and happy fiddling!
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well I don't think it's ugly. In fact it has that freshly varnished modern chinese deco look about it. I like it.
I bet with a dozen or two hours of TLC and some better strings it could sound a lot better,
LOL
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I don't think there is any such thing as an ugly violin.
Only ugly smileys. 
When the work's all done and the sun's settin' low,
I pull out my fiddle and I rosin up the bow.
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@kevin: thanks
, those are not my robots :p (well except for the pcb art{beatles}, i made those), these are some of my bots: http://letsmakerobots.com/user.....5885/pages
@cdennyb: lol, i don't like shiny violins, they looked like newly made cars that had been sprayed in a factory, yeah, i think that my strings are in need of replacement, but i will still sell this thing.
@kindascratchy: hahaha, that smiley's creepy! yes, there are no such thing as an ugly violin, just tiny screechy banshees living inside them!
@everyone, actually, i don't just hate the sound, i also hate the aesthetics, it doesn't have a real purfling(just painted on 
), it's too shiny, it's not in tune since the day that i bought it(i don't know how to tune, no one knows how to tune this thing in here, and, online tuners really don't help me), and for an ugly sound and aesthetics, that wouldn't be a good violin for me, because, i have promised myself that i would keep my very first violin and i would never sell it ad infinitum, but, to me, this thing is just a violin shaped box! so, i'm gonna sell this, and buy a new one for keeps!
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I noticed in one picture of your work desk there were some what appeared to be fountain pens. I love to write with them. Like your microscope made from scrap, very inventive. Now since you play a violin, take a piezo from an old sound card and mount it to the bridge of your violin then plug it into a preamp and into an amp then you'll have an electric violin.
ad infinitum, my favorite saying.
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Kevin M. said
I noticed in one picture of your work desk there were some what appeared to be fountain pens. I love to write with them. Like your microscope made from scrap, very inventive. Now since you play a violin, take a piezo from an old sound card and mount it to the bridge of your violin then plug it into a preamp and into an amp then you'll have an electric violin.
ad infinitum, my favorite saying.
yeah, well, i always use my fountain pen in everyday needs! i love to write with them...smooth and easy! thanks for the compliments about the microscope 
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I think your violin is beautiful. But if it does not speak to you then that is that.
I had love at first sight with my violin.
Nice to see the pictures and your continued posts here.
Good luck, happy playing and have a lovely weekend.
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