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ELCBK
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The Evil Smile SmileyI'm supposed to be doing other things! 

...but I ran across some Welsh tune names I had written down to remember, back when I 1st started playing my "Mortimer". 

While looking for those, I found "Jamie Nemeth" (Welsh Celtic Fiddle Champion 2007)! 

Here's 2 lovely Welsh tunes I hadn't heard, "Ffarwel i Marian" and "Coleg y Brifysgol Abertawe".

 

Here's one of the tunes I was looking for - "Morfa'r Frenhines"!

 

Oh, no - I've just fallen in love with another new waltz (new to me)!  Here's "Lliw Lili Ymysg y Drain" (The Colour of the Lily Amongst the Thorns).  He used a "Zoom Q2n" recording this. 

 

I'm afraid some of these are going to the top of my list! 

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d4/c6/28/d4c628e64168de3e18e2f663a50b998c.jpg

 

- Emily 

 

I hope some of you will give them a try. 

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Confused Head Scratching Emoticons Okay, 

I thought, what the heck, I love a waltz so I'm just going to take a stab at that 3rd video. 

Fifteen minutes later, I pretty much had "Lliw Lili Ymysg y Drain" nailed - didn't even slow the video down. 

So, I wanted to tell you all how easy it is, but thought it a good idea to find the sheet music, first. 

My 1st stop is usually "The Session".  I found it there, but none of their versions match!  They are all Emin! 

Unless I can't hear or my tuner is junk (both entirely possible) this video and what I'm playing is Amin!  There are no sharps/flats.

https://thesession.org/tunes/8370

I want to encourage even beginners to try this because it is a very relaxing tune to learn & play!  If you are a beginner, just try it without the double stops.

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- Emily

If anyone is interested, I'll search some more for the sheet music.

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very nice @ELCBK.  i liked the 1st tune (video) till about 1:45..not that the rest is bad just liked the first part.  the 2nd tune was my favorite of the three..

I very much agree to attempt and have fun with tunes.. explore different rhythms and chords/keys/tempos.  try different things and record yourself..work on what you dont like about it.  ive also found after practicing and recording..listening to it again the next day or so with fresh can be helpful.

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@GregW -

Yeah, that's about where the 2nd tune started - of the 2, I liked the 1st in the video, also. 

I still have to find a couple of others, besides "Morfa'r Frenhines", that I jotted down to remember.

Nice area to explore! 

https://a.1stdibscdn.com/archivesE/upload/8709/257/8709_1313014055_3.jpg

 

- Emily

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I found a couple more tunes I was looking for - pretty clean, not much ornamentation.

These 3 traditional Welsh tunes are performed by Oliver Wilson-Dickson.

Sawdl Y Fuwch (The Cowslip). 

 

Hen erddigan Morganwg (Old Morganwg Tune).

  

Castell Nedd 

They are all so mesmerizing, maybe a renaissance feel to them?  Or maybe Nordic influence?  Need to picked which to learn 1st!

https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--wWA5ZGyH--/t_Preview/b_rgb:484849,c_limit,f_jpg,h_630,q_90,w_630/v1481942729/production/designs/959081_1.jpg

- Emily

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Hmm Thinking Here Smiley

 

I just came across the strangest set.  I was listening to Welsh tunes... and I've been trying to identify what it is I hear that's different in Welsh folk music - been suspicious about possible influence by Nordic music or visa versa.🤔

Pum Chwecheiniog (Wales), Gwŷr y Gogledd (Wales), Forsslundspolskan (Sweden) and Pirun Polska (The Devil's Polska - Finland) - performed by Christine Cooper. 

 

I thought the "Devil's Polska" was from Norway, not Finland - hmm... blurry music borders?

Btw, the last 2 tunes use the G string tuned up to A. 

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6e/94/7c/6e947ca4abd7a97711a35018911d2bed.jpg

 

- Emily 

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ELCB said
The Evil Smile SmileyI'm supposed to be doing other things! 

What else is there Emily??? 🤣

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

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Today (er, yesterday), I've been learning "Cuckoo's Nest" (Casey Willis breakdown version in D).  I've been having a lot of fun with it, even though I can't quite play it up to speed. 

Ran across what might be it's traditional Welsh origins - but found 2 that both translate to "Cuckoo's Nest"(?)    

Here's what I think might be it, "Nyth y Gôg" - The Cuckoo's Nest(?) 

This is also a traditional Welsh tune, "Nyth y Gwcw" - The Cuckoo's Nest(?)  Just the bare bones, here - performed nicely by a young fiddler "Emelia". 

 

Found quite a heated discussion here. 

https://thesession.org/tunes/6380

Digging further, I would tend to think the minor key or dorian mode versions  (not the major) might be truer Welsh, from what I've heard so far of traditional Welsh music - anyone know about this? 

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- Emily 

My favorite version...

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Had to share this - it's on my list!  

"The Fairest One (Glwysen)" performed by "Amy Piano and Violin" YouTube site. 

Sheet music available at thesession.org 

 

 

@Mouse , @Ilona -

There is a wonderful Cello video of this Welsh tune by "The Wedding Cellist".   

https://www.youtube.com/channe.....Tbg/videos

https://www.nationalflaggen.de/images/flaggen/flagge-wales-whirlpool-60x100.gif

 

@stringy - have you seen this thread?

- Emily

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Oh, wow!, @ELCBK, I just listened to his Somewhere Over the Rainbow. Simply elegant, I watched his bowing and fingering. Excellent. I have bookmarked it.

Thank you.

Cello, Violin, and Viola Time! 

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Thanks, @ELCBK! Great pieces, great videos! There is some I would like to learn.

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