FORUM

Check out our Forum Rules. Lets keep this forum an enjoyable place to visit.

A A A
Avatar
Please consider registering
guest
sp_LogInOut Log In sp_Registration Register
Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
sp_Feed Topic RSS sp_TopicIcon
Do All Violin Book Practice Pieces Make Musical Sense?
Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 (0 votes) 
Avatar
Irv
Members

Regulars
September 26, 2018 - 2:59 pm
Member Since: December 23, 2017
Forum Posts: 1130
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I have been diligently practicing (without benefit of a teacher) for about eight months now and I am just about finished with the second book of the Muller Rusch String Method.  I can find no musical sense in about 15% of the assigned short songs.  I have previously assumed that it was due to problems with my intonation and/or phrasing, but as theses things improve I am beginning to wonder if they are the result of badly transcribed notation and other publishing errors.  Has anyone else noticed similar situations?

Research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I’m doing.  —Werner von Braun

Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.         —Frank Zappa

Experience is a difficult teacher, it gives the test first and the lesson after.

Avatar
Gordon Shumway
London, England
Honorary tenured advisor
Members

Regulars
September 26, 2018 - 3:26 pm
Member Since: August 1, 2016
Forum Posts: 573
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

It's difficult to know what you mean without seeing an example.

But I'd say that, comparing modern guitar music with piano music as I remember it from the Seventies, the quality of publishing does seem much lower and more prone to error now compared with 40 years ago, when, frankly, I don't recall seeing a single misprint.

Andrew

Avatar
Fiddlerman
Fort Lauderdale
October 1, 2018 - 1:12 pm
Member Since: September 26, 2010
Forum Posts: 14466

Usually the intent is that the Etude will help you practice one or more necessary techniques. I don't know if it's a written rule which would explain the times where you may find the etude makes no sense. 🙁
Truth is that any piece can be used as an etude for improving something.

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

Avatar
Gordon Shumway
London, England
Honorary tenured advisor
Members

Regulars
October 1, 2018 - 1:22 pm
Member Since: August 1, 2016
Forum Posts: 573
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Fiddlerman said
Usually the intent is that the Etude will help you practice one or more necessary techniques. I don't know if it's a written rule which would explain the times where you may find the etude makes no sense. 🙁
Truth is that any piece can be used as an etude for improving something.  

Did you mean to post this on Kreuzer 29?

Andrew

Avatar
Fiddlerman
Fort Lauderdale
October 1, 2018 - 2:34 pm
Member Since: September 26, 2010
Forum Posts: 14466

Andrew Fryer said

Fiddlerman said
Usually the intent is that the Etude will help you practice one or more necessary techniques. I don't know if it's a written rule which would explain the times where you may find the etude makes no sense. 🙁
Truth is that any piece can be used as an etude for improving something.  

Did you mean to post this on Kreuzer 29?

No

Title is:

Do All Violin Book Practice Pieces Make Musical Sense? I assumed that Irv was writing "Violin Book Practice Pieces" instead of "Etudes".

Irv said
......I can find no musical sense in about 15% of the assigned short songs. .....

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

Avatar
Gordon Shumway
London, England
Honorary tenured advisor
Members

Regulars
October 1, 2018 - 2:45 pm
Member Since: August 1, 2016
Forum Posts: 573
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I apologise. I misunderstood.

Andrew

Avatar
Fiddlerman
Fort Lauderdale
October 1, 2018 - 2:50 pm
Member Since: September 26, 2010
Forum Posts: 14466

Andrew Fryer said
I apologise. I misunderstood.  

No worries. I'm not very clear.... Too vague sometimes. Sorry.

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

Avatar
Irv
Members

Regulars
October 1, 2018 - 4:39 pm
Member Since: December 23, 2017
Forum Posts: 1130
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I think that I may have an answer.  The books I am using schedule the same set of instructions for all of the instruments from violin to string bass, and may not be consistent with the number of sharps and flats between notes and staff notation.  On rare occasions the difficulty of the page is out of character with previous or subsequent pages (it may take me three weeks to master half a page and only a few days to master other pages).

Research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I’m doing.  —Werner von Braun

Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.         —Frank Zappa

Experience is a difficult teacher, it gives the test first and the lesson after.

Forum Timezone: America/New_York
Most Users Ever Online: 424
Currently Online: cid
132
Guest(s)
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Members Birthdays
sp_BirthdayIcon
Today None
Upcoming knpjdad, blueviolin, Abby, gruff, Deedee-
Top Posters:
Mad_Wed: 2849
Barry: 2673
Fiddlestix: 2647
Oliver: 2439
DanielB: 2379
Kevin M.: 1969
damfino: 1913
cdennyb: 1814
TerryT: 1726
Ferret: 1575
Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 3
Members: 23492
Moderators: 0
Admins: 8
Forum Stats:
Groups: 16
Forums: 58
Topics: 7886
Posts: 98388
Newest Members:
belyibars, nastasyushkaaderfory, Aliceaderfory, andronyaaderfory, fretaderfory, hbvvbxaderfory
Administrators: Fiddlerman: 14466, KindaScratchy: 1735, coolpinkone: 4168, BillyG: 2915, MrsFiddlerman: 1, Jimmie Bjorling: 0, SimplePressHelp: 0, peopleshost: 0