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I want to get started with Fiddle songs
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Hi there!

I have been playing violin for some time now but have always played either classical pieces or pop/rock pieces.

I'd like now to get more into fiddling. If I understood the posts on the forum or videos I have watched so far it is a different kind of playing.

Do any of you have suggestions on how and where to start? Some pieces that I could try or maybe a video about it.

 

Thanks!

Tip

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Welcome back to the forum, @Tipiaowsek. I think that you have come to a great forum to learn the fiddling side of the violin. I have the Mel Bay, You Can Teach Yourself Fiddling. It has some really great tips and a good progression system. Fiddlershop has it, I believe. I have the paper copy and digital (I use it with forScore on my ipad). If you don’t need structured lessons with a book to look at, or would like a combination of no structure with a systematic book, or just want progressive songs to work on as you wish, I am sure many people here will have plenty of help to offer. I needed the structure of lessons and the book above works for me.

In the meantime, check out the information Fiddlerman provides in the drop downs in the menu bar above the forum. I am not sure if there is Fiddling specific, or not, but you can check there.

Also, it might help to look at the videos posted in the Share and Critique sections of the forum and see and hear other forum members play, read the comments after. There are a lot of tips found there.

I am sure others will chime in who are more into or experienced with fiddling.

Again, welcome back to the forum!

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@Tipiaowsek -

Hi!

Mouse has given you great advice! 

Any type of fiddling in particular?

You can Check out music videos in the "Genres" section. 

If you find a tune you like and the video here is not a tutorial, you can usually find one on YouTube. 

There are many links to sheet music archives here, too - just ask if you can't find a tune you are looking for. 

Have fun! 

 

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Tipiaowsek said
Hi there!

I have been playing violin for some time now but have always played either classical pieces or pop/rock pieces.

I'd like now to get more into fiddling. If I understood the posts on the forum or videos I have watched so far it is a different kind of playing.

Do any of you have suggestions on how and where to start? Some pieces that I could try or maybe a video about it.

 

Thanks!

Tip

  

Hey Tip,

you can check out several styles on fiddlevideo.com or their youtube channel to get an idea of what you like.  Once you figure that out you can dig deeper into that style..  with you having a few years of classical i may suggest checking out faded love at fiddlevideo with casey playing, look at the druken sailor hornpipe under kevin burkes section...dot the dragons eye in Henneke's section.  Andre and Patty have some really great waltzes..but all their stuff is technical.  kinda a general starting place not knowing what you like.

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Tipiaowsek

Great suggestions for ya,

Welcome back.

Mark

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Thank you all for the suggestions! And also for the warm welcome back :D I will look through your suggestions and some youtube videos. If I like it, the  I'll probably also buy the book you suggested Mouse. I am happy to be starting this new adventure. Tbh it gives me some motivation to play my violin more often :)

Do not practice until you get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.

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You are very welcome.

The Bumblebee Flies!

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o neils music of Ireland is like the fiddlers bible for Irish music, its got just about everything in there, and has a section on playing at the beginning dealing with ornamentations for tunes.

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I'm in love with this song and have been searching for FREE sheet music for it in the key of G (I hate the version with six flats.) It's called "Take Five" by the Dave Brubeck Orchestra. Does anyone have a favorite site for sheet music downloads? I know there are sites that you can download free for a short period, but then you're plagued with emails after joining. What sheet music sites are your favorites? Thanks for any advice from your past experience.

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@Grandpafiddle I didn’t find it free, but if you google it, you will find some for download for a few dollars. 

Remember, you cannot post a copy of this sheet music on the forum, it is not public domain. If you purchased it, you still are not able to post a copy of the sheet music here because it was purchased for your own use, not to be shared publicly. Just a heads up. I know we all like to help.

You may show where it can be purchased, with a link, but not a photo of the sheet music. 

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Grandpafiddle said
I'm in love with this song and have been searching for FREE sheet music for it in the key of G (I hate the version with six flats.) It's called "Take Five" by the Dave Brubeck Orchestra. Does anyone have a favorite site for sheet music downloads? I know there are sites that you can download free for a short period, but then you're plagued with emails after joining. What sheet music sites are your favorites? Thanks for any advice from your past experience.

Grandpaviolin

  

Hello there!  since you like this tune you maay want to pick up a copy of "the real book"   think its in 6th edition now and i think that tune is in it.  theres two versions i think..and if im correct youll want the version for C instruments..  kinda double check me on that i may have that part wrong.  perfect book for jazz standards.

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@Grandpafiddle -

Wish this tune was a Fiddlerman GP! 

 

@GregW -

Wow, Thanx for pointing out "The Real Book" (sixth edition) - I really like "Take Five", too!  

What are "C" instruments?

When I read about it on Amazon, I got all excited about the 400 tunes listed.  It's advertised as not being bootleg and all errors corrected. 

But, it says "(fake book)" at the beginning of the description and some reviewers are claiming they found a lot of errors.  

Have you found any issues?  

 

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No fool'n, I really like this tune!

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@Grandpafiddle -

Wish this tune was a Fiddlerman GP! 

 

@GregW -

Wow, Thanx for pointing out "The Real Book" (sixth edition) - I really like "Take Five", too!  

What are "C" instruments?

When I read about it on Amazon, I got all excited about the 400 tunes listed.  It's advertised as not being bootleg and all errors corrected. 

But, it says "(fake book)" at the beginning of the description and some reviewers are claiming they found a lot of errors.  

Have you found any issues?  

 

giphy.gif

 

No fool'n, I really like this tune!

- Emily

  

emiky we had them in a jazz guitar class a few years back.  instructor pointed out some transcription or chord choice...maybe not "errors" but things he wouldve done different.  i didnt stick with it long enough to know any better.  That style and class was a time commitment that got in the way of fiddle.  But as far as book...I Think C instruments would be the one youd want.  the others probably aimed at woodwinds but thats a guess...it was explained but i have forgotten the details and it hasnt been something ive needed to worry about since.

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C instruments are non-transposing instruments, i.e. instruments where written pitch and sounding pitch are the same. When you play a written C, you hear a C. That includes all string instruments.

Many woodwind and brass instruments do traditionally transpose, though not all. The key indicated is the note that sounds when you play a written C. In brass instruments it's mostly carried over from the time before valves were invented, and in woodwinds it's usually done to make it easier for one person to play multiple related instruments.

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C instruments are non-transposing instruments, i.e. instruments where written pitch and sounding pitch are the same. When you play a written C, you hear a C. That includes all string instruments.

Many woodwind and brass instruments do traditionally transpose, though not all. The key indicated is the note that sounds when you play a written C. In brass instruments it's mostly carried over from the time before valves were invented, and in woodwinds it's usually done to make it easier for one person to play multiple related instruments.

  

thanks Andrew for the info...forgot about brass

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Pretty amazing book series of tunes!  

Thanks for all the GREAT info. 🤗

Did anyone find a free source for Grandpafiddle?

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Tipiaowsek said

Hi there!

I have been playing violin for some time now but have always played either classical pieces or pop/rock pieces.

I'd like now to get more into fiddling. If I understood the posts on the forum or videos I have watched so far it is a different kind of playing.

Do any of you have suggestions on how and where to start? Some pieces that I could try or maybe a video about it.

 

Thanks!

Tip

  

Hey Tip,

you can check out several styles on fiddlevideo.com or their youtube channel to get an idea of what you like.  Once you figure that out you can dig deeper into that style..  with you having a few years of classical i may suggest checking out faded love at fiddlevideo with casey playing, look at the druken sailor hornpipe under kevin burkes section...dot the dragons eye in Henneke's section.  Andre and Patty have some really great waltzes..but all their stuff is technical.  kinda a general starting place not knowing what you like.

  

Tip,

were any of the styles something you thought youd like to explore more of?   

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@Tipiaowsek -

I ran across this earlier and thought you might find it helpful. 

"How to improvise bluegrass fiddle!" (Jamalong Music Method) - Folk Scales and GREAT tips for playing the Fiddle & Jamming! 

 

 

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