Welcome to our forum. A Message To Our New and Prospective Members . Check out our Forum Rules. Lets keep this forum an enjoyable place to visit.
Please join our 2021 Fiddlerman “White Christmas” Group Project!

A A A
Avatar
Please consider registering
guest
sp_LogInOut Log In sp_Registration Register
Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
sp_Feed Topic RSS sp_TopicIcon
Lightly Row
Topic Rating: 5 Topic Rating: 5 Topic Rating: 5 Topic Rating: 5 Topic Rating: 5 Topic Rating: 5 (1 votes) 
Avatar
RDP
Member
Members
November 8, 2021 - 6:08 pm
Member Since: October 11, 2021
Forum Posts: 39
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Suzuki Book 1.  Lightly Row.  Line 2 beginning at the 3rd bar, where it goes A, C, E, E, C, C, C_.  My pinkie and ring finger think they're 1 finger and I'm playing A, C, E, E, B, B, B_ because I'm lifting too many fingers!!!!

It only happens sometimes and not every time.  Grrr!

Maybe tomorrow will be a brighter day.

 

The good news is that I'm singing the notes as I read them and playing what I sing (until my ring finger and pinkie decide to become conjoined twins) rather than paying any attention to the finger notations.  Which means I did finally learn to read the score as written.  Now if only I could play it.

Avatar
Mouse
November 8, 2021 - 6:16 pm
Member Since: December 26, 2018
Forum Posts: 3457
sp_UserOnlineSmall Online

Sometimes it is like rubbing your belly and patting your head. You will get there. 😁

The Bumblebee Flies!

Avatar
ELCBK
USA
Members

Regulars
November 8, 2021 - 6:26 pm
Member Since: June 10, 2020
Forum Posts: 3114
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

@RDP -

I think I'm excited for you, but I'm a little confused. 

Are you playing 'A' on the D string and 'E' on the A string with your pinky?  If you are, that's wonderful!

Otherwise you don't use your ring finger or your pinky for any of those notes. 🤭

Avatar
Mark
Members

Regulars
November 8, 2021 - 6:30 pm
Member Since: September 30, 2014
Forum Posts: 1338
sp_UserOnlineSmall Online

When I play scales fast descending I have that issue as well, frustrating to say the least.

 

Mark

Master the Frog and you have mastered the bow.

Albert Sammons

Avatar
RDP
Member
Members
November 8, 2021 - 6:53 pm
Member Since: October 11, 2021
Forum Posts: 39
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

ELCBK said
@RDP -

I think I'm excited for you, but I'm a little confused. 

Are you playing 'A' on the D string and 'E' on the A string with your pinky?  If you are, that's wonderful!

Otherwise you don't use your ring finger or your pinky for any of those notes. 🤭

  

It's all on the A string.  Apparently that's the way they teach it even though the score has an option for using the E string instead of a pinkie on the A string.

I'm sure I'll get it, eventually.  After all, I can ascend with 2 fingers from A to C and from C to E without a problem but descending with only 2 fingers instead of 3 is a different story.

 

An interesting tidbit here:  I've been "listening ahead" and Lightly Row shows up again in Book 2.  Your post has got me wondering if it's going to be used for teaching how to change strings for the notes instead of fingering for them.  I'm not going to look that up because we shall see what the deal is when we get there.

 

Meanwhile... Grr!

Avatar
RDP
Member
Members
November 8, 2021 - 6:54 pm
Member Since: October 11, 2021
Forum Posts: 39
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Mouse said
Sometimes it is like rubbing your belly and patting your head. You will get there. 😁

  

Whenever I rub my belly, my head immediately thinks DONUTS!  Which isn't necessarily a bad thing but I don't need sticky fingerprints everywhere either.

Avatar
ELCBK
USA
Members

Regulars
November 8, 2021 - 7:19 pm
Member Since: June 10, 2020
Forum Posts: 3114
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

@RDP -

Thank you for explaining. 

Practice slowly, because fast should only be tried after slow is perfect! 

I do feel ya here - been playing almost 2½ years and only started to feel like I was getting my pinky under some control within the last 6 months!  I really should have used my pinky instead of any open strings - for everything, when I started playing. 🙄 

 

So, it's important to spend good time on getting the pinky to have independent control as soon as possible. 

It's all about slow, deliberate, repeated movements - good intonation. 

- Emily

Avatar
RDP
Member
Members
November 8, 2021 - 11:14 pm
Member Since: October 11, 2021
Forum Posts: 39
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I'm having to start slow every time because of the trouble I had learning how to read the music/notes.  I usually spend an hour a day on this and so far it's been several days just on Lightly Row, bowing and stopping to reposition my fingers for each note until I could do it fluidly several times in a row without mistakes at a very  slow pace.  Then I started increasing my speed by trying to be even more fluid rather than trying to bow faster.  I'm still not quite up to tempo/beat without mistakes (obviously) but I think in a couple of days I'll be there.

I'm dreading the Twinkle variations when we finally get to them.  Just looking at them in the book makes me want to shake my head no, no, no, no...  It can't be that bad, right?  I mean little kids learn this stuff so how hard can it be?

 

There's a couple of Suzuki instructors on YouTube.  ProAmStrings is one.  I know it would be a step backward after 2 1/2 years (and the lesson plan is geared for kids) but the lessons might help you with strengthening and controlling the pinky finger if you need it.  You can get the book on Amazon for <$10 and you don't need the Book/CD combination.   You can probably find all the music on the internet too for free if you look for it.

 

I need to stop rambling and go to bed.

Forum Timezone: America/New_York
Most Users Ever Online: 696
Currently Online: Mark, AndrewH, wtw, Mouse, JohnG
Guest(s) 70
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Members Birthdays
sp_BirthdayIcon
Today None
Upcoming HeadCheese, Mad_Wed, Andrew, Prudence, lakelivr, ButteryStuffs, harvestman, fiddlinmama, kit, makinnoise, wisco kid, Nathalie, marta, Raef, AmandaKulp, vocaliw95, nancyjoshua
Top Posters:
ELCBK: 3114
Mad_Wed: 2849
Barry: 2680
Fiddlestix: 2647
Oliver: 2439
DanielB: 2379
damfino: 1992
Kevin M.: 1972
ABitRusty: 1902
cdennyb: 1815
Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 3
Members: 28270
Moderators: 0
Admins: 7
Forum Stats:
Groups: 16
Forums: 77
Topics: 9326
Posts: 116661
Newest Members:
Delete 4
Administrators: Fiddlerman: 15722, KindaScratchy: 1757, coolpinkone: 4180, BillyG: 3674, MrsFiddlerman: 2, Jimmie Bjorling: 0, Mouse: 3457