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violin-works.com

I just ran across the "Violinworks" site last week.  It advertises help for "older beginners and improvers" who are self-learners or working with a teacher.

I watched some of the tutorials and read the sample of Book 2 (provided where you order).  I'm thinking of ordering Book 2 - just to make sure I'm not missing anything - and I like the way they approach learning.

I haven't been a huge fan of learning an instrument from a book.  I purchased a Suzuki book before I started - opened it, then closed it - never to look back, but that's just me.  I'm not sure why, because I usually latch on to "every" form of instructional assistance available!

So, has anyone else checked out or used "Violinworks"?

 

- Emily

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A lot of adult starters don't find Suzuki useful for anything other than level-appropriate pieces to play. Suzuki is noticeably short on explanation, because it assumes there is a teacher doing all the explaining. It was designed to allow very young children to learn the violin (Suzuki almost singlehandedly created the market for violins in sizes smaller than 1/2), so it assumes for the first two or three books that the student can't read.

I've taken a look at the Violinworks website. It looks quite comprehensive for a beginner-level method and definitely takes advantage of adults being able to take a more analytical approach to learning. And the demonstration videos look quite good, from what I can tell from a quick sampling. If it had existed when I was learning at that level, I probably would have bought the books.

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Thanks AndrewH!

Good to know! 

My BH got his hands on a 1/2 size violin for me to expose the Grandkids to.  the oldest of 6 will be 8 in August - she can read, but I don't think I'd better let her loose with the Suzuki book.  Probably more like "see if you can make a sound" & "do you want to learn more" (I'm not qualified)?

 

- Emily

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I still think the Suzuki books are worth having, as a well-thought-out sequence of pieces to go through. It's just that you have to get your actual instruction somewhere else, whether it's from a teacher, online tutorials, or some other book.

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Hi ELCB,

Check out this (and the related) video(s) of Mimi Zweig working with young children .

In my usual, perfectly unqualified way in all things concerning music, I imagine that Mimi's approach and persona represent the gold standard for teaching children 🙂

Holly

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As @AndrewH said, the Suzuki books provide a lot of pieces to work on at different levels. The Suzuki method is meant to be taught by trained Suzuki instructors with the books, but, the books are a nice source of pieces to use along with other instruction.

I love using the books as a source for music to play. I have Suzuki Cello 1-6. I still go back to 1 and 2 when I want to concentrate on bowing because I am getting sloppy, or want to do some vibrato exercises. It is just easier in songs I know. 

I would have those books available as a source for material to play. This is being said by a person who is so anti-Suzuki method. There are kids songs, folk songs, classical songs and Suzuki songs. There are also intonation exercises between. Just no instruction, that is up to the instructor. I can’t think of a song in the books I have used that I absolutely did not like. Some are not as fun as others, but, none that I did not want to play. I have not delved into books 4-6 yet, but I will get there.

Viola Time! 

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Thanks Holly! 

Great link/ton of info for working with Kids!

Thank you AndrewH & cid!

 

Back to main point, anyone else check out "Violinworks" at http://www.violin-works.com ?

It's set up specifically for "adult beginners and improvers".

Based on the video tutorials and Book 2 sample provided where you purchase it, I think this could be a valuable asset for the many adult learners on the forum.

I'm going to order Book 2 to check it out.

 

- Emily

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While I'm waiting to receive my "Violinworks Book 2" (my brother is sending me a Birthday gift!) - I've been searching out info on some different sub-genres.

Fiddlerman - this is your fault!  If you hadn't done such a GREAT job on your Jazz/Improve tutorials, I wouldn't be curious to learn more!

So, I found more for us beginner self-learners of Violin, Viola & Cello -

https://christianhowes.com/

https://www.youtube.com/user/C.....nHowesTube

His "Creative Strings" tutorials are free, but his online courses & Creative Strings "Academy" are not (of course).

He focuses on improvisation & has an online workshop starting on the 1st. 

Anyone know of Christian Howes?

I think for now, I'd better just press on with my vibrato and double stops, but I'm keeping an eye on this!

 

- Emily 

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