I found another odd bowing technique!

Might be a version of the one I saw/heard in the 1st post?

Figured better here than my Welsh thread. 

Angharad (Violin & Viola) uses her bow for some special effects and plays several Welsh tunes with her Mother, Delyth (Harp).  

It's at the beginning of the 2nd tune (I can't pronounce it). 

Actually starts at 3:30 minutes. 

@ABitRusty - you might really enjoy the very 1st tune! 

Nice effect, anyway! 

- Emily

@ABitRusty -

"Flautando" lead me to "Sul Tasto"!  

Conflicting info: some say they are basically the same,

others say Flautando and Sul Tasto are different, but both using fast bow speed I didn't see in my examples!   

I'm thinking I'm seeing a combination in the examples of my 1st and 2nd posts!

But even MORE ADVANCED - also adding a progression of the bow up and down the strings (not just back and forth). 

In Angharad's performance, she actually did a circular motion (VERY COOL).  

Think I found the slower speed AND the position movement I saw in all the Cello and Violin players! 

So, is Sul Tasto the elusive technique? 

FIDDLERMAN?

- Emily

@AndrewH -

Thank you, that's why I like to check with more sources.   

None of my video examples are using a fast bow stroke, though - assuming there are some liberties with each technique? 

So, is Sul Tasto the technique Angharad used in the Welsh Medley (DnA) video (Post No.2)?  Angharad also uses Col Legno.

Btw, the site with the video that said "Flautando, also known as Sul Tasto", authored "Art of String Teaching" so I thought worth mentioning albeit confusing. 

...love Simon's Cat. 

- Emily

When I started this thread I was so excited to find all these bowing techniques. 

Just kind of bummed it's taken me all this time just to get to where I can finally start to focus/choose to play closer to the fingerboard or closer to the bridge! 😒

- Emily

I was thinking about all the bowing techniques/strokes/patterns involved with Oldtime and Bluegrass Fiddle music. 

If you are interested in these styles of music, has anyone checked out the 'Peghead Nation' Channel on YouTube? 

Peghead offers courses on 'Roots' music; Bluegrass, Oldtime, Irish, Blues, and Swing Jazz.  Brittany Haas teaches even a few more styles of Fiddle music! 

Video About Learning Roots Music at Peghead Nation

Peghead Fiddle Courses: Details & Sample Lessons

...amazing, what music we can create because of our bows! 

- Emily

@ABitRusty -

Thanks, they appear to be very thorough with some great pointers. 

I'm even eyeballing the banjo lessons. (lol) 

Hope Fiddlers watch the sample fiddle lessons. 

When talking about more advanced bowing techniques, I had expected this thread to cover more refinement than it has. 

Thanks to a recent post by Mouse (about cello), I'm revisiting this thread and continuing my search for a better understanding of bowing.

Bow grip, to me, is extremely important!  This past year I found a way to keep my thumb from slipping through the bow without squeezing anymore (which had been a terrible problem) - and that made a HUGE impact on how I now handle my bow! 

1.) I still haven't spent time learning to control what my different fingers can do to change my grip (my 1st post here).  Some good stuff is going on - I'm just not aware of what that is! 🤪

2.) Thought it's time to try to become more aware of exactly when, where and how much I tilt the bow. 

3.) I'm also aware that I treat each of my 5 strings differently when bowing, but not really clear on exactly what it is I'm actually doing when it feels 'right' on each string.  I'd like to make sure I understand so I can be more in control of what I'm bowing and able to improve. 

So, I have MUCH more to explore!

Zlata addresses my tilting the bow interest in this video.  

Here's a very interesting video from ARCUS Müsing (ARCUS bows, Germany) - how our bows work with our strings to get the beautiful tone from our violin, viola or cello!

Now, this video is remarkable because it talks about how strings move when they vibrate/string overtones, how the bow is not totally engaging with the string 100% of the time and how the strings actually move in the opposite way when up-bowing vs. down-bowing!  

It explains that when you change bowing direction, the string must stop to change - but we hear continued sound from instrument resonance. 

I believe I've experienced some issues when I haven't allowed the string to settle before changing bowing direction - or, at least I haven't changed direction of my bowing in a way that helps the string change. 

Been wondering if this isn't what's sometimes mistaken as a 'wolf tone'? 

This video also explains an important feature of violins - each has a unique resonance profile, but each bow also has it's own, unique, resonance profile. 

Also info about bridge function, rosin function and all about damping (huge difference between lower & higher strings)! 

Gets pretty interesting starting at 21:24 - the force between the bow, the string and how it changes with time. 

I like how Zlata explains that different sounding points, on different strings... sound different! (lol) 

What is really interesting, is that we should consider changing our contact points, when playing in higher positions! 

Exploring bowing is a great way to start off the New Year! 

- Emily