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I've started again trying to learn third position and when I play on the d string in third position I've noticed my bow touches the g or a strings quite a lot.  I wondered if it was me not paying attention to my bow hand because I was thinking about my left hand fingering but when I looked at the violin from the side and pressed the d string down in third position the string goes lower than the strings next to it.  So is my bridge maybe too high? Not angled enough?  Anyone else have this issue?  It's distracting but also off putting because I really want to work on shifting but the noises are not good.  

 

It it doesn't seem to happen as badly playing on the a string and I haven't began working on the e or g strings yet.

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If the string is lower than both that G and the A in third position, it's most likely a fault in the shape or position of the bridge.  It's physically impossible for it to be lower then the G and the A string at the bridge itself (since that's a fixed point), so about how far between the bridge and the fingerboard does it get below both of those strings?  

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Uzi said
If the string is lower than both that G and the A in third position, it's most likely a fault in the shape or position of the bridge.  It's physically impossible for it to be lower then the G and the A string at the bridge itself (since that's a fixed point), so about how far between the bridge and the fingerboard does it get below both of those strings?  

It's a bit hard to explain, i'll try and get a photo when i get home to give you a better idea.  

I figured i would have issues with the bridge as it was new, i'll take it to the store and have them look at it.

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4th finder in third position (sorry about the photo quality).  It's side on and I know it's hard to see.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t1/vickiwilson91/imagejpg4_zpse2f1510f.jpgImage Enlarger

 

I do have another photo of the strings in relaxed normal position but I can't get the link to copy over and if I keep trying im going to throw this thing out the window so I'm giving up.  

 

This issue is happening In Third position, It would be worse if I tried for fifth position, but luckily I'm not there yet.  I'm going to try to take it to the shop this weekend and get someone to look at the bridge. 

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It's good enough, I think, to see what you are talking about.  It looks from the picture like it goes below the G string approx. 1/2 way between the bridge and the fingerboard. On this fiddle that I have, it doesn't get to that point until about 1 inch from the end of the fingerboard.  Also, it may just be the picture, but that looks like a very thick bridge. 

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Yes, that's what I was seeing too, it means that with the setup the way it is now to play in third I'd have to bow really close to the bridge to not hit other strings. 

 

 I'm not sure what bridge it is, I forget what I bought.  I'll see if the store can either fix this one or just change it out for a new one.  

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https://fiddlerman.com/forum/t.....ridge-pdf/

 

You can download this pdf and follow the instructions and check the curvature of your current bridge and possibly make a few slight sanding corrections to it if needed.

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