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I couldn’t find the vibrato thread but I came across this video and thought it may help others . I thought mine was improving but it’s just as slow.
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@Katie L -
I liked the video!
Nice find - appreciate you shared this!
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Has anyone else found that as you have started to progress with vibrato , it’s less about the collapsing knuckle and more about the vibration quiver motion ?
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Oh and I also wanted to post this which as definitely helped me ..
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Katie L said
Has anyone else found that as you have started to progress with vibrato , it’s less about the collapsing knuckle and more about the vibration quiver motion?
Vibrato has nothing whatsoever to do with collapsing knuckles (I take it you mean the tip joint?). All that will do is keep you slow forever. At correct speed the tip joint is (within reason) rigid, and what moves against the string is the fleshy tip of the finger.
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Gordon Shumway said
Katie L said
Has anyone else found that as you have started to progress with vibrato , it’s less about the collapsing knuckle and more about the vibration quiver motion?
Vibrato has nothing whatsoever to do with collapsing knuckles (I take it you mean the tip joint?). All that will do is keep you slow forever. At correct speed the tip joint is (within reason) rigid, and what moves against the string is the fleshy tip of the finger.
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EDIT: I tried to make this start at 2:21 but for some reason when I post it here it always starts at the begining. Annoying!
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Thanks both !! Great video Jim . I’m on a mission to get my vibrato sped up !
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The whole point of vibrato is to improve the tone of your violin. You won't achieve that by starting slow and speeding up. You have to start fast, listening for the tone created, then, when you have mastered that, slow down and aim for similar effects.
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… and this video is all about bending the knuckle …
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hey katie and thanks for sharing...and im keeping up with your pursuits here.
Ive watched this... she makes it look so easy! my question is..what is "romantic vibrato" vs another type? what differentiates romantic as opposed to something i would use say for a modern pop ballad played on violin? i wonder if it matters? just wondering about that because she brought up that its something unto its own and if theres another approach that would be better for now id like to know. I dont even know what "romantuc" refers to so if anyone xan shed some lght on that it would be helpful.
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Hi Abitrusty… she so does !!! I’m trying everything to be able to do it but I’m not sure I’m further on from a year ago !! Are you going to have a go with it ??? I have no idea about the different styles. Maybe romantic more intense ? Who knows. I’m playing Amazing Grace at the moment, it has a long c# so trying to put some vibrato in … won’t be sharing a video of that !!! 🤣
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yeah i try to work it in at the beginning when i get to sit down with fiddle. basically just trying guitar position and then a scale or something. Nit alot of time in ut but trying more and more to work it in. guess ive watched 10s or 20s of vi rato videos that all make it seem so easy. gotta get more loose on funger joints i think. everything is too tight. itll be a long process... maybe one day. trying though
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Katie move your hand away from the neck, not your thumb side the other side, the hand has to be completely relaxed and hardly touching the string, in arm vibrato which is what I use you sort of push the arm away while keeping your finger glued to the string but with no real pressure, this makes your finger tip collapse, I tried using hand vibrato and it didn't suit me at all. The real secret is complete relaxation, a lot of people don't realise the part the bow plays in it, the bow has to be held so loosely it feels as though you will drop it, this makes your whole upper body relax, I definitely wouldn't bother using a metronome by the way, in my opinion that's a waste of time.
This is how I practice it, very scratchy because first time today and only 50 0dd seconds, no warm up, but this is the reality of practicing, it's ugly, lol.
Don't know if it's any use to you, tried to get a hand angle but with this cheap tablet not really possible
Bit more, bit more, snap #*÷?×?@?#?@
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That is of use to me Stringy ! Thanks for sharing how you practice. I’m going to watch again tomorrow and try it out. Thanks .
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@Jim Dunleavy , @Katie L & @stringy -
Thanks for sharing the videos!
Watching them reminds to practice & focus!
I easily lose patience with it after a while, so I need to find a way to make this my 'friend', not my enemy.
...it's taken me a long time to get many things to feel 'natural', so I'll keep at it. 😊
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