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Aleive
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January 23, 2012 - 10:43 pm
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That awkward moment...

When it is 4.50 AM, and you refuse to go to bed before you nail the first 4 lines of a tune, and is turns out those 4 lines are the most challenging in the world..

Am I alone struggling with this issue?

"Art, as far as it is able, follows nature, as a pupil imitates his master; thus your art must be, as it were, God's grandchild."

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Kevin M.
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You are not alone in that.  Many times I've been up way too late trying to get something right.  When you know how to play it but your fingers insist on doing differently.

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Aha! That sounds like every practice session I've ever had.
Even playing all open strings lol

I am amazed at how old people of my age are.....

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Heh.. I ended up not sleeping at all this night.. Today I am reading up on notes, trying as hard I can to remember them.. I am rubbish at this. And I will not be capable of pulling another all-nighter =( 

Ah well :) I did conquer the piece I wanted though :)

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If your fingers refuse to play the passage and you can't get over the learning hump, try a technique that I first read about in a book about Dressage riding, which is called, IIRC, Perfect Practice.

Put the violin away, leave the room and find a cozy place to relax. Your body must be relaxed. Now, in your mind, picture your fingers hitting each note, and hear the sound of the passage being played perfectly. Then play it in your head (perfectly) over and over again until you have it memorized. Take a break and then pick up your violin to play the passage.

You might be surprised to find that you have created new pathways from your fingers to your brain and the passage will suddenly be easier to play. Sounds crazy, but it works.

I often fall asleep playing songs in my head - it's a fascinating exercise to "play" the song with the mistakes from the last practice session and one by one eliminate them as I fall asleep.

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I have tried that. And I know it works. My friends uses that technique when they once in a lifetime hit that block :P But I can't do it.. I try pretty often though.. I obsess way too much. The issue is not if I can hit the notes or not. It has to be bloody perfect, or I start over again :P It is a fault. But I just get frustrated if I keep playing, missing notes. So it is quite the paradox, with one solution. Win!

But thank you :) And my favorite way of passing out is thinking of music

I don't sleep. I pass out, and end up in a coma. Not waking for anything.. Including fire alarms. The police was raiding the house. Because my brother had a bad habit of getting into trouble :P And I would not wake up.. When I did wake up they brought me with them to take all kinds of drug tests.. That was hilarious.. I had to take them twice just to make sure.. It is an art; to sleep I told them.. One of the more fun days of my life.. The fact that I was fudging blind did not seem to faze them at all :P

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I like this idea Cat. Sometimes ability is having the confidence to do what you think you can And muscle memory.
If you have positive memory it can work wonders.
I'm not saying it is ALL you need but it helps.
"Ask a winner how it feels to win, then ask someone who has never won the same question"

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CatMcCall said

If your fingers refuse to play the passage and you can't get over the learning hump, try a technique that I first read about in a book about Dressage riding, which is called, IIRC, Perfect Practice.

Put the violin away, leave the room and find a cozy place to relax. Your body must be relaxed. Now, in your mind, picture your fingers hitting each note, and hear the sound of the passage being played perfectly. Then play it in your head (perfectly) over and over again until you have it memorized. Take a break and then pick up your violin to play the passage.

You might be surprised to find that you have created new pathways from your fingers to your brain and the passage will suddenly be easier to play. Sounds crazy, but it works.

I often fall asleep playing songs in my head - it's a fascinating exercise to "play" the song with the mistakes from the last practice session and one by one eliminate them as I fall asleep.

Never knew they had a name for it but I was taught to imagine riding and giving the cues to the horse.

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