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Is 432Hz Tuning the Miracle Frequency in Music?
Or, just Out of This World?
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Gordon Shumway
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Difficult.

I don't know whom I told, but a few months ago I tried to open a sash window that I forgot I had locked and pulled many muscles in my left arm, so playing the violin is very difficult. I coped with orchestra on Friday without needing a break, but I haven't practised much for two months.

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@Gordon Shumway -

Wishing you a speedy recovery, so you can get back to Fiddling! 

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- Emily

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Thanks, Emily.

Maybe what I need is a quartz tuning fork or an Ohm/Earth fork to tune my chacras.

You can have A in 435/440/441/442/443/444/445, btw.

I'm reading a post on tuning fork porn I wrote on my uke forum many years ago. The images don't work here, so I won't post the whole thing. And there's scurrility in it which the mod won't allow.

I wonder why I didn't include 432 in that uke post?

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https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b1/c9/a1/b1c9a16ce2b096fd3ec4085c58e93d74.jpg

I ran across a great video on Elam Rotem's Early Music Sources Channel - more on "Historical Pitch" - simply not Historical! 🤣  

 

LOVE Elam's encouragement to NOT LIMIT ourselves to the "modern historical arsenal of pitches"!!! 🤗

Great video comments talking about woodwinds in France, too.  

Really surprising how much controversy over Concert Pitch standards into the late 20th Century! 

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/49/aa/45/49aa456ff33dd2bc229a32678c8343fe.jpg

Had to take a few minutes to browse through Concert Pitch info on Wicca-pedia for more interesting stuff! 

 

I must admit, my nature leads me to believe it's a great idea to permanently lower my Mortimer's strings down at least a half step - maybe even a whole step, because it's easier to play in the range I like to hear! 

...maybe I'll see how just how long I can leave them lowered, but actually - I'm kinda scared to even pick Mortimer back up now that I'm so used to playing Edgar! (5-string Violin vs 5-string Viola)

- Emily

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Just for funzies I detensioned to A=432.

 

The tone is fine.  The strings are limp and pizcatto is nothing but a trampoline unless done right at the heel and extremely lightly.  Which kills volume to the point that it's almost like not touching the string with the bow.  I suspect the bridge arch would need to be changed to help avoid double stops on every string.

 

Try it yourself and see what I mean.

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Gordon Shumway said
Difficult.

I don't know whom I told, but a few months ago I tried to open a sash window that I forgot I had locked and pulled many muscles in my left arm, so playing the violin is very difficult. I coped with orchestra on Friday without needing a break, but I haven't practised much for two months.

  

Did the same thing changing the linens on the bed.  Now, Tendonitis to boot.  Doc had me not play for the past week and isn't all that encouraging when I say I want to get back to practicing.

Give it another week...   Grrr!

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https://cache.lovethispic.com/uploaded_images/284396-Happy-Halloween-Sketch.jpg

@RDP -

If you are having those kind of issues when tuning down to A=432, then double check - cause something is wrong. 

Even A=415 is barely noticeable at only a half step down & no 'limp strings' from that - you should be able to tune all your strings down a whole step without issues. 

- Emily

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Interesting discussion at the session -

"At How many Hz do you tune your Violin?"

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ELCBK said
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@RDP -

If you are having those kind of issues when tuning down to A=432, then double check - cause something is wrong. 

Even A=415 is barely noticeable at only a half step down & no 'limp strings' from that - you should be able to tune all your strings down a whole step without issues. 

- Emily

  

for me, 432 feels very "soft" under the bow.  Maybe I have a heavy hand and that's the reason why.  415 would probably end up with my strings resting on the fingerboard and the bridge falling down unless I taped it in place or something.

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I never use a tuner, but when I tune, my brain puts me very close to 443.

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Fiddlerman said
I never use a tuner, but when I tune, my brain puts me very close to 443.

  

After my detune to 432 I retuned by ear, just to see how close I'd get.  I ended up with A at 435.

Tuning the rest of the strings from there (by ear), E was also low by 5mhz.  D was about 3mhz higher than it should be and G was about 8mhz higher.

 

A year ago I wouldn't have been able to do any of that.

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1Hz - 1 hertz = 1 cycle per second.

KHz, MHz and GHz are kilohertz, megahertz and gigahertz.

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