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Using Music Theory to Enhance Your Tunes.
Terminology and possibilities for a "super" solo!
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ELCBK
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Before I even started playing the violin, I admired fiddlers/violinists capable of taking a simple melody to a much more enriched, multi-level state. 

My creative process starts with questions and observations. 

So, how much can we do as Fiddlers/Violinists (Violists and Cellists, too) as a single instrument - to make a basic melody better? 

I recently mentioned (in another post) the possibility of using another melody as a backing track.  Brings up some merging prospects?  I believe "Counterpoint" is the term for this.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.....terpoint 

More from recent posts - trying to get a grip on where to use ornaments, hearing ornaments of other instruments in a piece, merging a duet or a "Second Voice" - these have lead me to the term "Nonchord tones" and their useful possibilities of embellishment. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.....ghbor_tone  

Nonchord Tones terminology - used to distinguish their purpose, from the "Integrated Musicianship: Theory" site.  

https://intmus.github.io/intth.....tones.html   

I am still fairly new to these terms, but I hope this encourages others to "play" around with their music! 

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Anyone have more suggestions?

- Emily

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i think youre talking about the silver spear video of slainte mathe?  i misunderstood what you were saying..i wasnt suggesting you use it for a backing to another tune.

EDIT... also that post was concerning lilting.  in the video i posted of silver spear, the lilting was used as a bridge, to me, really.  I havent decided if the part that comes after the intial silver spear is still a version of siver spear or another tune.  but i dont think theyre playing silver spear and another tune together.  If they are i completely missed that.  i would think that would be too busy to an already busy tune so if they did that its pretty cool how they pulled it off.  

whats the classicical piece of music  from Tchaikovsky where two different anthems or something are played in counterpoint?  Think it was an ode to Napoleonic wars or something...usually played outdoors alot in the summer and has some cannon shots along with it..  probably going off into the ditch here..  i may be way off there.  1812 overture?  whats the story on that one.

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@GregW -

Sorry, edited my post - it was me that mentioned it. 

Got caught up remembering this video as a "Counterpoint" example. 

"Classical Music Mashup"

 

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@elcbk  heres an experiment..pick a jig in a related key..say swallowtail and play along with this.  kinda neat sound.  youll either have to play at tempo with him which will be very slow or double which is gonna be a pretty quick clip.  or noodle with Gmaj scale/Em  think Edor would probably work but the C# may clash here and there.  Theres a bunch of tracks out there like this to play with.

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@GregW -

Always wanted to learn the Swallowtail, guess I better get crack'n! 

https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4115/4761102708_ae2b167c27.jpg 

 

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something to play to i guess..  any jig would work thats em friendly...

 

your comment made me think of this.   i had to take vr goggles off..got motion sickness. :)

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giphy.gif@GregW -

What wonderful use of "Counterpoint" and "Nonchord Tones" for emotional response! 

 

(even though it wasn't your intent - lol, am I wrong?)

  • "Music is a built upon tension and release".
  • "Music is structured to create expectations for the listener and then either fulfill or deny those expectations". (Integrated Music Theory 2018-19)

"The Scariest + Creepiest Chords AND How to Use Them" by Signals Music Studio 

 

"Cadences in Music Theory: The 4 Types Explained" 

https://www.musicnotes.com/now.....plained/ 

"Music Composition: Dissonance = Emotion" by Rick Beato 

 

 

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- Emily

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