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St. Paddy's Day Playin' and a Fiddlin'
Both of us would LOVE to hear your Irish tunes, on whatever instrument you desire.
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Fiddlerman
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@ABitRusty - Now you know. LOL, I actually won a costume party out of about a hundred people that evening. It was in Sweden and the jury was made up of women that loved Mel Gibson.

WOW, great job everyone and great party. They just keep getting bigger. saint_patricks_day

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but the one who needs the least."

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Thomas just spent over an hour all by himself reading out loud everyones conversation and watching videos of everyones great fiddln for St. Patricks day and he LOVED it!!! Thank you so much for making our first party such fun AND informative. We learned so much, especially the slip jig. So again, @Fiddlerman thank you so much for having such a great group of members. Ever since we first saw you and left you a message on youtube(and you responding before we were even members)you have taught us alot. And to all the other members.....well, we just can't express our gratitude enough for helping us figure out how to do things on here and for being just plain folk because that is exactly what we are up here in Maine. Simple plain folk who live in the slow lane for the most part. 

Jim(Thomases Dad)

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Missed your medley Emily, sorry about that just watched it echo Gordon very impressed, some great playing there,  never tried the copperplate have to givethat one a go, and the butterfly, in the second set, I was going ro actually give that one a try for this paddys day, but in the end apathy stopped me, lol

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@stringy -

Thank you!  I always appreciate you taking the time to watch! 😊 

Wasn't feeling well for a couple weeks, so had to scramble at the last minute when the Party started.  So much talk about the Swallowtail, I learned it, then found a recording by Anthea Lawrence - gave me the idea to fill in the middle with "The Butterfly". 

Back when ABitRusty 1st played "The Old Copperplate" (maybe a year ago?), I learned it - almost forgot it! (lol)  At thesession.org there's 3 different tunes listed (with variations) - "The Copperplate", "The Old Copperplate" (The Copper Plate) and "The New Copperplate" - all Reels.  I learned from this easy video tutorial from Tom Morley, if you are interested. 

The Old Copper Plate Fiddle Tutorial - Tom Morley

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- Emily

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https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4a/d0/ab/4ad0abd0c33069490c97dc699ea57355.jpg@JimandThomas -

Since Stringy changed his mind, it seems I'm the only one who played a 'Slip Jig' - a very common, 3-part tune (I learned this by ear, for your Party), "The Butterfly".  

I think Slip Jigs are fun to play - they are in 9/8 time. 

At thesession.org, you can find notation for Slip Jigs - there are many to choose from. Under their 'Discussions' heading, there are MANY about playing Slip Jigs. 

Slip Jigs Listed at The Session 

I recommend finding someone on YouTube who has recorded/plays a version you like (to compare to versions at The Session) - and you know there are many video tutorials to learn from there, also!  

Hope you try one! 

- Emily 

 

A word of warning, though!  Please keep in mind "The Session" is a GREAT resource, but many notations are variations heard & shared by people like you and me, and the software used there can make tunes sometimes heard unnaturally fast. 

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Emily going to take a look, at he copperplate you posted thanks for that, let you know how I go on with it.

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My goodness, a whole lot going on in this party I’ve got to catch up on!  Need to watch everything—going to take me more than one sitting, though.

@ABitRusty The Sally Gardens & Lad O Beirnes Jig are a nice pair of tunes—great playing!  The Sally Gardens is a very different tune from Down by the Salley Gardens.  It is interesting how so many of these tunes have similar & also multiple names.  I’m thankful for The Session – such a good resource for finding these songs. 

@Jim Dunleavy Great playing of Morrisons Jig!  Staring not a problem—in most of my vids, I’m often looking at the sheet music, so I’ve got a pretty prominent stare going on—just the way it is smile

@Fiddlerman (& Gibbles, Suaima, & Joe) Wonderful quartet playing Galway Rambler Medley!   

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SharonC said
 

The Sally Gardens & Lad O Beirnes Jig are a nice pair of tunes—great playing!  The Sally Gardens is a very different tune from Down by the Salley Gardens.  It is interesting how so many of these tunes have similar & also multiple names.  I’m thankful for The Session – such a good resource for finding these songs.  

  

@SharonC thanks... yeah theres seems to also be at least 2 tunes with the name the name the sally gardens or sally in the garden in the old time world.   i like the Dm version.  very nice clawhammer/fiddle duets out there of it.

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Have to be say Emily I’ve watched your swallowtail a few times now and I think your rhythm is brilliant - really jig like ! I feel inspired to go back and try and make mine actually sound like a jig ! How do you do it ? Also Jim I thought your sound was really clear - you know when the pros talk about having clear notes.. that’s how you sound I think. And Mark I just like your overall sound and I think you are really smooth and love your vibrato ! And Fiddlerman’s vid that great really enjoyed it- not sure how you concentrate on your own playing and think about others! Amazing loved the costumes! And also a really lovely tribute to your mother johng what a nice idea.

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@Katie L -

I think The Swallowtail Jig is a good opportunity to play around with phrasing & dynamics - many different possibilities. 

Fiddle music notation can be SO frustrating! 

A Jig is 6/8 time, mostly notated as 6, eighth notes to a bar, but not usually played as if they are all equal - you only have to end up with a total of 6 beats to a measure.  So, the accents you chose are important.

I can't explain it as well as the many tutorials on YouTube.  Chris Haigh has a great one, FiddleHed has several & just found an excellent 'Jig Groove' tutorial by April Verch - ALL very helpful! 

 

Learn "how to get a jig groove" on fiddle with April Verch

Swallowtail Jig, lesson with ideas for bowing and ornamentation - Chris Haigh

Swallowtail Tutorials - FiddleHed Playlist 

- Emily

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@stringy Really liked you Kesh Jig!  Good happy tune! 

@ELCBK Morrison’s, The Butterfly & The Swallowtail + Encore practice tunes – nice slides, & good rhythm going on these! I think you & Edgar are getting along just finesmile

@JohnG When Irish Eyes Are Smiling – Wonderful tribute to your mom; fitting debut for Maureen—she’s sounding really good!  I’m sure your Mom would be proud!

@JohnG Thanks for your comments on my Danny Boy!

@Mark Hector the Hero – Just beautiful—my favorite of all you’ve played.  

@JimandThomas Congrats on your Party Badge! Thanks for hosting this party!

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@SharonC -

Thank you! 

Appreciate you watched! 

 

...yeah, think Edgar's starting to sound like a Fiddle. 🤗 

- Emily

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@SharonC

Thank you.

Mark

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@SharonC - Thanks (and your welcome), I needed something special for both of them, my mom and Maureen!

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Decided to add my Castle Kelly video to keep this party alive! Done yesterday, amazing thing was it only took one failed attempt before keeping this one! A new record for me.

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That big fiddle, is certainly bringing out the best in you, no doubt about it. You just be very pleased with yoir progress, which is certainly now speeding up, it takes a long time just to get into it, which you now are. Great playing again John, I love the tone you are getting out of that instrument, very pleasing to the ear.

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Thanks, @stringy! I am truly getting to the point that I enjoy the actual playing now, before it was more like I enjoyed the learning how to play, which I still have a lot to learn.

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Strange isnt it, its like an abstract pleasure, indefinable, and an addiction.

Told you before, guitar was always my instrument, and then both types of banjo and other stringed instruments, but nothing gives me the pleasure and sense of accomplishment as playing the violin, it has something different that I just cant put my finger on, doesnt really matter how good  you are, which you have probably  now realised. I think its a very personal thing, and I am always amused when people dismiss violinists and viola players, when they have no idea how ridiculously difficult these are to even get any kind of sound from them, let alone a real tune, the only people who appreciate the work are other players who have been through the same thing.

I started to learn it because I heard a busker in Rome near the vatican and was blown away, and thought to myself, that those who played violin were real musicians and I was some kind of fake, I determined more or less on the  spot I would take it up as a challenge to prove something to myself, playing a fretted instrument is like painting by numbers, playing a violin is seeing with your ears, takes some doing.

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@JohnG -

https://castlehunter.scot/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/IMG_4306-2-e1520376770724.jpg

WOO HOO! 

I love that you are helping to show how great a VIOLA can sound for Irish tunes! 
Sounds very good. 
My hat's off to you & Maureen! 

Thanx for making this an enjoyable Party! 

 

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stringy said
Strange isnt it, its like an abstract pleasure, indefinable, and an addiction.

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I love reading your philosophical comments. Music, especially on un-fretted, string instruments either leaves you cold, or it can enter your heart and make it as one with the world. I think I may finally approaching the beginning of that. At my age, it will probably never be complete, but the journey will be worth it.

@ELCBK - It's a shame the viola isn't more highly thought of in the Irish music world. It can, with the right person, give exceptional depth to the underlying strains of pain and suffering that often lurks in the depths of many Irish tunes.

The old curmudgeon!

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