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Is Rosin choice as important on an Electric Cello?
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My NS Design Cello will be here in a couple weeks and want to decide on a rosin before then, is the rosin you use as important on an electric as it is on an acoustic?

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I would think so. You still depend on the bow hairs “snagging” the strings. Have you Googled to find info on rosin for electric cellos. That is interesting though. I think I am going to do that now. Will let you know what I find out.

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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Well, in some forum called “Quora” had two answers to that question, with an explanation. Here is the link to the question with the two answers given. 

https://www.quora.com/Do-you-n.....-cello-bow

If I find anything else, will let you know.

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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@Leaviathan I just tried Googling rosin specifically for an electric cello. There was none that is made specifically for an electric cello. Since you use the same bow, and are bowing strings, it makes sense there would not be rosin specifically for electric cellos. I am assuming you can use whatever cello rosin works for you. 

I am sure any rosin manufacturer would be more fhan hapoy to create one and charge extra just to sell it, though.

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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Any of the major brand dark rosin should work fine throughout the year unless you live somewhere very warm.  If so, a major brand light rosin may be in order.  If you need a bow or your existing bow needs a rehair, you may want to experiment with obtaining black horse hair.  Black hair has little demand, so better quality can be obtained for less money.  Sometimes, senseless bias can be made to work at ones advantage.

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I didn't know if quality rosin would make a difference or not, lots of people on here like Yumba, but Jade is supposed to be good as well. There's a $20 price difference so I was looking to find out if the subtle differences you would notice in the tone of an acoustic cello based on which rosin you use, would be the same with an electric.

On an acoustic, the tone resonates through the chamber, on an electric it's all about the strings and pickups. I do have quality amps to put it through.

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I will admit to some experimentation in that regard, but I cannot hear any difference (yet).  But I am having a lot of fun with a $12 set of strings.  Your results may vary.

If you are new to the cello, consider starting out at a lower pitch until you gain strength in your fingers.  I started out at a=434 and Holly started at a=432.  You will likely find that there is no need for an amp for practice.  I also found the weight of a cello bow tiring on my right thumb and substituted a violin bow once in a while.  

If you have started on a violin, many thing are similar with the cello and the bass clef is not the major obstacle I thought it would be.  

Nice choice of instrument, by the way.  Enjoy.

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@Leaviathan I use Jade with my cello. It was the first one I was introduced to. I have found that it depends on the strings, too. I tried Holstein Premium on my cello. It built up too easily and caked in the strings. I tried a rosin that was given to me, can’t remember the name, same thing. The Jade and the Guillaume worked fine.

I was introduced to the Guillaume at my violin shop. Pirastro sent me Evah Gold when I contacted them about a mixed set of student strings they recommended me to use. I was using their Pirastro Cello Rosin, Cherry Red. It caked up easily, They said they don’t recommend that rosin for that set of strings, and then sent me a free full size Evah Gold. It is pretty good too. I am no longer using that set of strings, they wore out. I still use that rosin just for a change up on other strings. I always end out back with the Jade. 

The best for cello, for me, has been, Jade, Guillaume, and Evah Gold (it is in a black box and called Evah Gold. They have two Evah rosins.) The least expensive is Jade.

My three favorites listed above are all three hard dark rosins. The other rosins are not that dark and hard.

I do not live in the hot humid south, or dry hot southwest. I live in the northeast USA. I have window A/C in the summer, so Summer hear and humidity does not change conditions.

I hope this helps. I have not tried the Yumba. It is a bit expensive and I have enough of the Jade, Guillaume and Evah Gold to last for years.

I would stick with the Jade. I always go back to my Jade.

Hope this helps.

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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Irv said
I will admit to some experimentation in that regard, but I cannot hear any difference (yet).  But I am having a lot of fun with a $12 set of strings.  Your results may vary.

If you are new to the cello, consider starting out at a lower pitch until you gain strength in your fingers.  I started out at a=434 and Holly started at a=432.  You will likely find that there is no need for an amp for practice.  I also found the weight of a cello bow tiring on my right thumb and substituted a violin bow once in a while.  

If you have started on a violin, many thing are similar with the cello and the bass clef is not the major obstacle I thought it would be.  

Nice choice of instrument, by the way.  Enjoy.

  

Thanks, I'll be using a Codabow Prodigy with it

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@Leaviathan I use Jade with my cello. It was the first one I was introduced to. I have found that it depends on the strings, too. I tried Holstein Premium on my cello. It built up too easily and caked in the strings. I tried a rosin that was given to me, can’t remember the name, same thing. The Jade and the Guillaume worked fine.

I was introduced to the Guillaume at my violin shop. Pirastro sent me Evah Gold when I contacted them about a mixed set of student strings they recommended me to use. I was using their Pirastro Cello Rosin, Cherry Red. It caked up easily, They said they don’t recommend that rosin for that set of strings, and then sent me a free full size Evah Gold. It is pretty good too. I am no longer using that set of strings, they wore out. I still use that rosin just for a change up on other strings. I always end out back with the Jade. 

The best for cello, for me, has been, Jade, Guillaume, and Evah Gold (it is in a black box and called Evah Gold. They have two Evah rosins.) The least expensive is Jade.

My three favorites listed above are all three hard dark rosins. The other rosins are not that dark and hard.

I do not live in the hot humid south, or dry hot southwest. I live in the northeast USA. I have window A/C in the summer, so Summer hear and humidity does not change conditions.

I hope this helps. I have not tried the Yumba. It is a bit expensive and I have enough of the Jade, Guillaume and Evah Gold to last for years.

I would stick with the Jade. I always go back to my Jade.

Hope this helps.

  

Thanks, I have Holstein Premium right now, I'll give the Jade a shot before moving on to anything more expensive, but I'll see how the Holstein works first

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The Holstein might work for you. I love the packaging and its ease of use. I think I was able to use it with a certain set if violin strings, but can’t remember which brand. I think a lot of factors play a part in what rosin works for you. I read somewhere than many stringed instrumentalists use a variety of rosins for certain circumstances.

Keep us posted on the NS cello.

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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I agree, fast bowing requires a less sticky rosin from what I've read, I won't be playing fast any time soon. I need to master slow first 😀

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