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A while back a friend of mine who plays flute in an orchestra was telling me that there is a particular piece of music he's heard that has a part where the violin section actually plays the strings using the wood of the bow rather than the hairs. I guess what this would entail is literally turning the bow upside down and stroking with the wood. he said the idea was to produce a sort of light airy ethereal sound.
Anyway I tried playing like that and I can understand what he meant. I can see where an entire violin section playing that way would create a rather strange and almost mysterious sound.
Now comes the hard part. Has anyone ever heard this piece or can anyone name it. So far I am drawing a total blank.
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May be you are referring to col legno.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Col_legno
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May be you are referring to col legno.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Col_legno
This is exactly what I was thinking of. Very interesting. And I'm pretty sure that one of the pieces mentioned in the article is what my friend was thinking of
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Fiddlerman said
Yes this is right, we use col legno every once in a while when the parts call for it. However, we don't turn the bow upside down. Just turn it so much that it is laying mostly on the stick and a little on the hair. Also, it is used more often for hitting the notes than playing long notes.
Bump. I was wondering how people with good bows dealt with col legno, so I Googled it. It seems some use a cheap wooden bow, some use a CF bow, some use a pencil, some do half hair and half wood, and one uses a chopstick! Some deny that col legno does the wood any harm and it's a myth that it does. I think I'd want to take a cheap wooden bow just in case, unless you think it really is harmless.
Andrew
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Andrew Fryer said
Fiddlerman said
Yes this is right, we use col legno every once in a while when the parts call for it. However, we don't turn the bow upside down. Just turn it so much that it is laying mostly on the stick and a little on the hair. Also, it is used more often for hitting the notes than playing long notes.Bump. I was wondering how people with good bows dealt with col legno, so I Googled it. It seems some use a cheap wooden bow, some use a CF bow, some use a pencil, some do half hair and half wood, and one uses a chopstick! Some deny that col legno does the wood any harm and it's a myth that it does. I think I'd want to take a cheap wooden bow just in case, unless you think it really is harmless.
I use my primary bow for col legno, but make sure to wipe it as soon as possible afterward. I don't think the strings are hard enough to damage the varnish on the bow; the important thing is to avoid leaving rosin on the stick.
Then again, my bow is a mid-level hybrid bow, not an expensive wood bow.
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BillyG said
Awesome @Gordon Shumway - and *I* thought I had read darned near every post on the forum !!!!! Great stuff ! Seriously - there are SO many threads here that often the same topic is referred to again (in "ignorance" of the existence of a related, if not specific, earlier thread )I love seeing these old threads resurrected ! Thank you !
On a different forum I got a reprimand for reopening a two-week-old old thread instead of starting a new one on exactly the same subject!
Andrew
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