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SharonC said   The articulation police are not going to show up at your door because you decided to hook (i.e., slur) two 8th notes that do not have a slur annotation at an end of a phrase so that you can start on a down bow in the next phrase.
  

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Doc-Ivory said

ELCBK said

@Doc-Ivory said: 

You know the dot above a note signifying a detached slur? 

Please tell me more about this - it's new to me! 

I only know of Staccato, notated with a dot above the note - and Fermata, notated with a dot & eyebrow above it.  Neither one sound anything like what you describe. 

This is one of the simpler from my lessons.

They explained to me that it's a slur but the dot above tells me to stop the bow at the end of beat for the note, then continue on with the bow in the same direction, stopping again. There are days when I'm squinting to see it.

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In this particular case, the dotted slur should be as short as the first note. As an experienced musician you learn this. They use this bowing simply so that the down bow will be on the first beat on every measure.

I would have written it with two up-bows instead. In other words, there are better ways to notate this.

It's very common to have dots over slurred notes. Simply means that you stop or pulse the bow on every slurred note. The amount of the staccato is a musical decision. Up to interpretation.

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Mouse said
@Doc-Ivory I think I know this one! It looks like my Suzuki Book 1 JS Bach Minuet No. 1. 

You keep the bow going in the same direction, no bow direction change for thos two notes. They are played as staccato, though.

Dah  dit  dit  dah  dah dah  dah  dah  dit  dit  dah  dah. 

Those four dotted quarter notes are light staccatos without bow direction change. 

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@Doc-Ivory That is funny you say you can't see the dots! I had trouble reading my sheet music when I had lessons because my main bifocals wouldn't work, the distance to the music stand and the strength of the bifocals did not match up. My poor instructor. I had to keep stopping. Is that a D or A? Is that a flat or natural? Is that note on the line or above the line? I kept having to lean forward. He tried to move the sheet music closer, but I knocked it over when playing! 😂😂😂😂😂

I measured the distance between my eyes and the music stand and brought my sheet music to my upcoming eye appointment. We figured out what I needed and had a pair of bifocals made with the main part for reading my sheet music and the bottom for reading closer material! 

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I bought a cheap pair of 1X readers on the days my eyes are tired and I'm having focusing issues they give a longer focus length for looking at sheet music, they work for me very well.

Mark

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Fiddlerman said

The amount of the staccato is a musical decision. Up to interpretation.

The way to lose your inhibitions is to listen to CG. Bream, Segovia, and follow the music. "Tempo? What the hell is tempo?" "Dynamics? What the hell are dynamics?" "Just play anything any way you damn well want! Yeehah!" The audiences love it, and why not?

Staccato on piano is a very specific thing. Its original meaning was "play the note exactly half the length it's written" Of course this is open to interpretation, but if you play it literally, it works wonders on this Debussy piece: -

I had to learn it as a kid and you practise it by beginnning dead slow and pressing each key down.up.down.up like a machine, then you speed up, but it repays the effort. I had a CD of it where the pianist played it staccatissimo and ruined it. I had a better teacher!

But staccato on violin is totally different again (especially when written by non-violinists). Due to my piano background, my understanding of it isn't yet full, but I say take Bream's and Segovia's and Fiddlerman's advice and do your own thang and knock em dead.

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I measured the distance between my eyes and the music stand and brought my sheet music to my upcoming eye appointment. We figured out what I needed and had a pair of bifocals made with the main part for reading my sheet music and the bottom for reading closer material! 

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Im gonna do this and I have an eye appt soon!!!
I wear those varilux lenses so I need to tilt my head back and look kinda down my nose. Then chin down, chin up, chin down.
I look like one of those 1960's bobbing birds LOL!!

I'm bringing some music to my exam next week!!!!

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Don't forget to have someone measure the distance from your eyes to your music stand. It is more accurate than trying to do it at the eye doctor. Don't measure from chair, violin, etc. Measure from the eye to the music from the most often used positioning. 

My eye doctor used that measure when setting the music up. We had a music stand in the car, but did not need it. The assistant held the music at the given spot. We did the same thing to check when the glasses came in.

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Mouse said
 Measure from the eye to the music from the most often used positioning. 

My eye doctor used that measure when setting the music up. We had a music stand in the car, but did not need it. The assistant held the music at the given spot. We did the same thing to check when the glasses came in.

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Good suggestion!
I'll let you know how I make out!

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