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Okay, just got a new violin, and I can't seem to get the G string right. It just makes this really horrible sound like the hairs aren't making strong contact. I've tried it a hundred different ways, but it consistently makes this sound. The other strings are okay, but the G sounds terrible. Its also only when I'm playing notes with a finger down, particularly C. I know that sounds like it would be a problem with how firmly I have my finger down, but it doesn't really seem to matter. I guess it's an intonation problem, but ugh it just sounds so terrible and the only way I can seem to correct it is if I play really slow and hard on the bow stroke and even then it still makes that sound if I'm not really careful. Also, it's completely different to how I play on the other strings. I'm wondering if it's just me or the string or both.
I have also the same problem with my old violin, and i don't know if this is the same case as yours but I noticed that there's a very tiny opening on the side body of the violin, it's like the wood glue is gone so I guess that's making the bad noise. It sounds awful when I strike the G string especially adding weight.
I thought I might know what a wolf sound was and that cool video really helped. That is what I was thinking. Thank goodness I don't have that problem.
In the video she said it was the violin but why wasn't it making the wolf sound every time she tried if it was the violin? She seemed to have to work at it to cause it.
Violinist start date - May 2013
Fiddler start date - May 2014
FIDDLE- Gift from a dear friend. A 1930-40 german copy, of a french copy of a Stradivarius. BOW - $50 carbon fiber. Strings - Dominants with E Pirastro Gold string.
@Schaick - I *guess* is is partly due to the energy required - and the very specific frequency to hit - I noticed she was carefully "pulling in" to the specific frequency where it occurred - but it was there - and that's the point. The other side of the argument is the "energy" passed into the instrument - play that very same note very softly, and it will (probably - I've never seen it) be OK - but give it a bit more "welly" - the more mechanically substantial parts of the violin may start to resonate. ( Like the Tay Bridge and Tacoma Bridge disasters - you hit some "natural frequency" and once it starts, it gets worse and worse until the mechanical excitation is removed )
As I say - never observed this directly - I *thought* I had - but it was a simple "internal, and natural body resonance" which made, around C or C# on the A string sound "louder" than it should. This is "relatively normal", being close to the resonant frequency of the violin body cavity - if it "bothers you" ( LOL - talking about myself ), you learn to play a little less heavily there ( just like you have to do if you're still using open strings in the first position, and not stretching that pinkie out onto the lower string to avoid the heavy resonances you always get from an open string...
These were just my thoughts about this and related issues - I'm WELL up for correction and enlightenment... LOL
I seriously recommend not copying my mistakes. D'oh -
Please make your own, different mistakes, and help us all learn :-)
Okay, guys, here's some audio that I hope helps. Since replacing the string, it seems like it occurs higher on the string than before. It's now mostly in the B range, a little in C, absent in A. Before, it was mostly in the C range. Now, I'm a beginner, so there is some shakiness, but I don't get anything like this on the other strings or even other notes on the G. Any advice or incite is appreciated and thank you for previous replies.
Is that what it is, a wolf tone? I tell you, I've tried playing every which way on that string. My finger is pressed firmly, I bow straight. I've tried going lightly and I've dug in, too. When I play with greater pressure, it seems to alleviate it a somewhat, but playing that way inhibits speed and makes fast string crossing really awkward and difficult.
Have you tried adjusting the tension on your bow? On the bow that came with my Cicilio, I have to tension it just past the point of being visibly loose and no tighter. If I go any tighter, I get more bounce and awful sounds out of it much like that. Since it is also not well balanced, I find myself choking up on the bow a little which helps. (sliding hand further up from the frog until I get a better balance. NOT ideal, but it helps until I replace my bow.
One thing I've definitely noticed is that since replacing the string, the problem notes are lower. Before it was pretty much all on C, with a little on D and B. Now, it's virtually gone on C and is entirely on B. I might try upgrading the strings, but first I'm going to see if there's a local place I can take it to just to have someone with a little more skill play and see what they think.