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What Is The Difference Between a Fiddler and Classical Violinist
What makes a fiddler different from a classical violinist. Is it the instrument, attitude, music playe or what?
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cid
January 4, 2019 - 6:41 pm
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LOL Shane, this forum is so amazing. Irish Viola from Mell Bay! 

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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Great video @BillyG 

I never play classical music, always Irish and bluegrass. How I play depends a lot on my mood at that moment. The same tune can be sound different because Im playing it in another way, another mood (other bowing, sluring, accents etc.) ? I think in classical music they play more from how it’s written in the sheet music!

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@mookje You are right, classical players seem to be purists and play it as written. And do not accept another musician as a musician unless that musician does the same. There was just a new thread discussed about that on another forum. That is exactly what they were saying. I so wanted to comment, but it would not have been welcomed. There is nothing wrong with it, if that is what you want to do, but not me. I just don’t see the need to be so uppety about it, I kept my thoughts to myself, LOL. Wow, that was a first!

I have to give credit to the purist classical players, though, they really stick to their beliefs about it and that is fine. Thing is, if you are a classical violinist who has really made it big, that rule does not seem to apply. Very weird. Oh well, I am just not into it. I like some classical music to listen to, but not interested in playing it.

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Being a purist is very limiting. IMAO
Even when I was a full-time section leader in a major orchestra/and concertmaster in another, I didn't like being too much of a purist.
I tried to get our section to sway back and forth when playing Strauss. I tried to get people to memorize as much of the music as possible. And, I required people to smile, which was popular but not with everyone. Classical musicians can be stiff.

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but the one who needs the least."

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@cid I get your gist and am envious of those who can improvise and personalize tunes on a newly picked up instrument. 

I, for sure, have neither the musical gene nor the background to do so... so busy getting all my body parts in the right spot at the right time to actually "feel" the music. My strategy (may need some adjusting to start producing actual music) is to get the meat and potatoes down first... yes, as written on that prosaic Suzuki page. I hope this will liberate some capacity for feeling the music... how it breathes, undulates and communicates, down the road.

In the meantime - I'm one of the many who are learning music just because it makes them happy. That "happy" for me included getting what's on the page correct enough to muddle through at rehearsals with 70 other much better musicians once a week. You can imagine how non-uppity these guys are if they let me play along. Just wanted to share that some classically trained musicians are more chill... especially in non-competitive, community orchestras. Of course, I'm talking about folks who are mostly retired and largely out of the rat race of vying for orchestra seats. When I ask them why they play for free with a group of 80% amateurs, they mention enjoying the low key, low stress environment but also the thrill of sharing what they know with the kids and returners involved. 

To wind down this rambling, I suspect that, even within the constraints of classical orchestra playing, there's plenty of room for interpretation. The better the technical skills of a players, the broader the opportunities to interpret. I think trad fiddle and classical violin have this in common.

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I was talking to a guy a yesterday about Fiddlerman instruments and Pierre and he asked what the difference was between a fiddler and violinist. Without thinking I said, I get through the song, Pierre's a violinist and he gets through the song and he plays all the notes.

When I play it's like putting together a Christmas bicycle, I usually have extra parts, and some of them end up in the wrong place.

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Shane "Chicken" Wang said

When I play it's like putting together a Christmas bicycle, I usually have extra parts, and some of them end up in the wrong place.  

Question is, does it roll when you're done?

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