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Which is worse? Playing on a string that's too sharp, or too flat?
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February 18, 2016 - 7:56 pm
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I'd assume playing on a string that's tuned too sharp would be worse because you can't just put your first finger down to make the pitch of the string. 

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While learning vibrato it was explained that i could go flat and get sharper but not start sharp and go flat. I think it lends well to this, better to be slightly flat.

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.... I suppose, in theory, assuming you have a good ear and are happy with shifting, it wouldn't matter ?galaquote.JPGImage Enlarger

 

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  It can be fun to practice with just one of the strings ( say D or A ) de-tuned/flattened by a semitone....  at least then the fingering on that string is  "out" by precisely a half-finger-step...   But in essence I think that's what Galamian was getting at - it is not always about "absolute finger positioning" it is about "relative finger positioning" (open strings being the exception of course - you would have to "find what should be the open-string note" on the fourth finger on the lower string)   Argggggh...roflol

...  but yes - that is also my understanding in vibrato - flat->pitch->flat->pitch

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Haha, funny you should bring that up, i guess im doing well in that case because about half of my practice is grabbing the violin off the wall without tuning and running through a quick song i have in memory while waiting for someone to get ready, or before heading out to work.

Now i can say i do it on purpose because im following ivan's advice 😀

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exactly

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I'm not sure I understand the question. do you mean playing a fiddle that is out of tune? if so, that would just not be acceptable for me. make sure the instrument is in tune before you start to play it.

if the fiddle won't tune properly, get it fixed, or get another fiddle.

IMO, playing a fiddle that is in tune is Job 1.

I've heard of people who give up playing the violin because for whatever reason, they can't tune it. 

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bluesviolin

 

Let's assume you're in the middle of a piece during a performance and for whatever reason the violin gods have decided to knock one of your strings out of tune. Would you rather have the string go flat or sharp? Obviously if you're just doing normal practice you'd tune the violin. 

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Ahhh... the true beauty of fret-less instruments.   Indeed...

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madbill that is a great clip and good advice.

I think I will have arrived.. if when playing I am able to compensate sharp or flat by ear.  Meaning if my string is out of tune and say I didn't tune.. I would be able to make the necessary adjustment.

Go Ivan.  

Thanks Bill!

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Dom said
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Let's assume you're in the middle of a piece during a performance and for whatever reason the violin gods have decided to knock one of your strings out of tune. Would you rather have the string go flat or sharp? Obviously if you're just doing normal practice you'd tune the violin. 

@Dom 

Sorry, my bad. I guess I'd rather have it go flat. I would be more used to it going flat rather than sharp form stretching or vigorous playing. 

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