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Which violin would you try
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If given the chance to try any violin ever made and at the same time have a lesson from anyone in history, which violin and which teacher would you pick, For violin I would go for Il Cannone, and for teacher Oistrakh

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I don't know that I'd want to try any particular violin because I'm decidedly not a violinist. But I'd want to try the "Primrose" Amati viola, and take a lesson from Lillian Fuchs.

(Both influenced by by my small hand size. William Primrose's Amati viola, now played by Roberto Diaz, is slightly smaller than mine. Lillian Fuchs was a virtuoso violist despite standing only 4'9".)

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Believe it or not I had never listened to her before. Just heard her play bachs prelude for cello on viola amazing playing.

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Hmm Thinking Here Smiley

Very interesting thoughts. 

I'd be thrilled to death to just hear Il Cannone played in person. 

Thought it was especially nice that David Oistrakh taught his son, Igor, to play the violin and they actually looked very happy to performed together - tells a lot about a teacher! 

If the Gasparo da Salò is the viola Lillian Fuchs was playing when I listened to her, just being in it's presence would be fabulous - have no doubt a lesson from her would be amazing. 

Read William Primrose sold his Amati because it lacked projection and had a wolf tone - later inspected and repaired by it's new owner.  Did Primrose regret selling it? 

I might answer the posed questions differently if I was younger. 

Just don't think I need to wish for the best instrument, something a little nicer than what I currently have would be wonderful - won't know until I try.  I'm grateful to learn wherever I can - couldn't expect any classically trained Maestro to enjoy giving me 5 minutes of their time and I certainly don't want that kind of pressure/stress in my life, anymore! 

All I've wanted is to be able to pick up music quickly so I can join in if I wished (classical or any genre) and share what I love with family & friends. 

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what got me thinking was I had been to see the messiah in the ashmolean this summer, longside other rare violins various strads and such, and Ithought it was sad that they will never be played again, that gotme to thinking of famous violinists and what iit would be like to hear their thoughts and techniques.

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IL Cannone is kept in playable condition and still loaned out, I think.  Regina Carter, Jazz violinist (originally from Michigan😁) has played it several times. 

I don't understand why more can't be kept up in playable condition. 

Nice you got out - I really miss going to Museums and Art Exhibits!  I'm going to have to wait until this covid 🤬 stuff is under control. 

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I suspect Primrose didn't especially regret selling his Amati... at the time he had three other violas, and the Amati was the smallest one he performed on.

Roberto Diaz gets a good sound out of it. Although he seems to have trouble projecting over the orchestra at times in the YouTube video of him playing the Walton concerto, I suspect this is more a matter of his unusually fast tempo and not using as much bow as other violists would.

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ELCBK said
IL Cannone is kept in playable condition and still loaned out, I think.  Regina Carter, Jazz violinist (originally from Michigan😁) has played it several times. 

I don't understand why more can't be kept up in playable condition. 

Nice you got out - I really miss going to Museums and Art Exhibits!  I'm going to have to wait until this covid 🤬 stuff is under control. 

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Think I have mentioned elsewhere that art is the second most important passion in my life. If you havent been, and ever get the chance go to vienna the museums palaces and history are fabulous, as well as the people, coffee amd cakes, my favourite city in Europe, and also the cleanest city I have ever been to, love the place.

Dont worry the plague is coming to an end at last, soon it will be a distant memory.

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I think that I would like to play on the Messiah Stradivarius which is worth about 200 million US dollars.

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

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Fiddlerman said
I think that I would like to play on the Messiah Stradivarius which is worth about 200 million US dollars.

  

Geeze! I would like to be able to afford to buy it! I would let you play it!

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Fiddlerman said

I think that I would like to play on the Messiah Stradivarius which is worth about 200 million US dollars.

  

Geeze! I would like to be able to afford to buy it! I would let you play it!

  

Its funny, when we went to the museum to see it, people were walking straight past, without giving it a second glance, not knowing that it is probably the most expensive instrument in the world, and definately the most expensive artifact in the museum, it sits alongside the first Amati, as well as several other strads.

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I would probably choose an Electric Violin, i seem to get on better with Electric than Acoustic but no idea why, seen some very nice Electric ones which are a bit out of my price range at the moment. I am loving the sounds it produces with different effects and kind of makes it more enjoyable. Trying to learn Chi Mai on the Acoustic, when i listen to it, it sounds so simple but to me it's a PITA lol.

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LordOdin said
I would probably choose an Electric Violin, i seem to get on better with Electric than Acoustic but no idea why, seen some very nice Electric ones which are a bit out of my price range at the moment. I am loving the sounds it produces with different effects and kind of makes it more enjoyable. Trying to learn Chi Mai on the Acoustic, when i listen to it, it sounds so simple but to me it's a PITA lol.

  

chi mai is beginner to intermediate, or maybe even higher, bts of third position in there, and even a fifth position note. simple sounding violin tunes are quite often deceptive, good luck.

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I would probably choose an Electric Violin, i seem to get on better with Electric than Acoustic but no idea why, seen some very nice Electric ones which are a bit out of my price range at the moment. I am loving the sounds it produces with different effects and kind of makes it more enjoyable. Trying to learn Chi Mai on the Acoustic, when i listen to it, it sounds so simple but to me it's a PITA lol.

  

chi mai is beginner to intermediate, or maybe even higher, bts of third position in there, and even a fifth position note. simple sounding violin tunes are quite often deceptive, good luck.

  

Been trying to do it by ear which is a task in itself. Going to try and get the music sheet for it before i go any further.

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Half the battle is hearing the tune in your head first.

I took a look at the sheet music online myself looks straightforward but like I said there are some third position shifts in there, best thing to do is record yourself playing it, dont know if you are doing that or not, but it shows if you are in tune, wih violin what you hear under your ear quite often doesnt sound the same to an audience. I remember first time I did a recording of myself playing ,it was what you could call dis heartening lol, but you have to persevere.🤓

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@LordOdin -

I think the answer to why you get along better with the EV is there's instant gratification using it. 

I'm sure you can see how much harder it is to get your AV to sound good.(lol)  Glad you're keeping up with it - never know, some day you may find yourself in a situation without electricity! 

Here's a simple version of "Chi Mai".  If that 1st C (and any note higher) is difficult for you right now, just play 1 octave lower.  Same goes with the Octave chords - just play the lower note. 

 

Sorry to derail your thread, stringy!  

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no problem Emily, hope what you posted is some use to him, I didnt even think of changing the notes lol, sometimes the obvious isnt apparent, by the way the night music is coming along, not stopped for three days now, but it does help having not much else to do, I have memorised the first two pages of music, just a matter of getting it in tune with repetition now👂bythe way I really should start using a metronome, I am keeping my eye open in second hand shops when they re open for a traditional one, not keen on these electronic ones at all.

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@stringy -

Sounds like you'll have it conquered soon. 

I've been picking up a lot of music from threads I've posted in (so much easier now in my 20th month) - the Swedish ornaments are kicking my butt!   

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...maybe my fingers need wings.

 

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Thanks @stringy and @elcbk i appreciate the advice and the link, i am the type who plugs away till i get something right which can sometimes take a while especially if you have 2 or more things on the cooker, bought a keyboard to help tune the vast amount of instruments i am amassing lol. Thing is i am enjoying myself which when learning can be half the battle. The cold weather at the minute is playing havoc with my fingers and am at the point of getting the Doctor to have a look at them, they are swollen at the joints and getting blisters as well, i don't know if it's new meds that are causing it or what but i have a Heart Nurse visiting on Monday so maybe she might know.

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Enjoying what you do is the point of everything, as soon as that goes it becomes a job. I am like you once I start I am like a dog with a bone.

I have a lot of instruments myself front bedroom is full of all kinds of things. I have a friend who actually had racks made for all his guitars his walls were full of them, all kinds of leccys and acoustics in the end he sold them all off and now lives in st petersburg in Russia,, funny thing was he loved keyboard more than àll of them but was absolutely terrible at it lol we never had the heart to tell him, it reminded me of him when you mentioned it.

I know what you mean about the cold, I am a warm weather person myself, in fact if I could Iwould move to Barcelona,the lock down doesnt help either. Hope your fingers are OK dont over do the playing till they are loked at.

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