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Live Looping with DAW?
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I wasn't going to snoop anymore until I actually got into PreSonus Sphere, but couldn't help myself. 🙄😆 

Been once again, reminded of why I was originally interested in an Acoustic/electric instrument - Live Looping! 

Really nice 5 String Violin & Live Looping performance, "Summer Particle", by 5 String Theory. 

 

For me physically, not a great option to use pedals at the moment - so, brings me to ask, what is possible to do Live, without pedals in DAWs? 

Studio One 4 from PreSonus - The Amazing Power Of 'Live' Mode (Studio One Expert). 

PreSonus Live Mode

PreSonus Studio One 5.2: Arrange Live on the Show Page! (PreSonus Audio Electronics with Lukas Ruschitzka).  "You can even control your arrangement from Studio One Remote."

Studio One 5.2 - Live on Show Page

Ableton has "Ableton Live Looper", it's a plug-in that might also be compatible with PreSonus  - not sure if it does more than what the current PreSonus already has (can dig deeper, later). 

Simple description/guide to Ableton's Looper

How to use Ableton Live Looper

Btw, I read up a little about how people set up Ableton for live looping prior to Ableton's Looper plug-in... it was crazy! 

Here's possibly something good for iPhone users!

Live looping on iPad-“looper” L7 by Audiokit - Dan Baker

For iPad Pro - GarageBand: a beginner's guide to Live Loops (20 Tips!). 

GarageBand Live Loop

 

Most of you would probably prefer to use pedals, so I'll leave it at that. 

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...all just to add a little color. (lol)

- Emily

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@elcbk are you asking what to use other than a looper pedal or how to utilize the show features in studio one?  Im no help on either but was asking so i can better understand your goals within studio one.  Im thinking it may be easier if youre wanting to play to backing live to just make mp3 backings and have a playlist ready.

didnt know about all the new cool features in version 5.2 !  i dont think ill ever use those features but its great info to know its there.  ill need to experiment with those and see what it can do.

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@ABitRusty -

Was looking for closest alternatives to live pedal effects, hoping I can be happy with PreSonus, now that I found these videos (found them last, of course) - guess my search wording wasn't good enough - geez. 🙄

I see plenty of video tutorials how to use it. 

The Studio One 4, 'Live' Mode video explained a lot for me.

Was trying to figure out if Ableton's Live Looper plug-in offers anything better, but really don't care now, unless I run into problems down the road with PreSonus. 🤔 

Btw, read somewhere they recently fixed issues some people were having with 5.2 (?) so, good to know!  Certainly don't need software problems when I can't tell if it's me doing the "something wrong". (lol) 

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So... seeing single quotation marks, for the 1st time in a long while, I had to read up on if I was using double ones too often.  Turns out I only have to be concerned if I'm British!  (lol)

"I deeply apologize to all my Friends in the UK!" 🤭

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@elcbk  you can apply effects to an audio channel as you record.  Effects like ampire pedals work just fine,  even for violin...sounds almost like an overdriven guitar.  They include classic amplifier models and different effect pedals you just select from the effects tab and drop onto the track.   Not sure if thats what you mean.  you can also loop an audio track and record takes..you dont need anything additional to presonus for that.

are you planning on doing a live internet type thing? 

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btw - PreSonus Studio One 5.3 came out today!

The old curmudgeon!

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JohnG said
btw - PreSonus Studio One 5.3 came out today!

  

yeah.... i upgraded the other day since we have a couple more ver 5 users here..thanks @JohnG 🤨  figured what the hey.  smoothest upgrade..I waited till they had all the bleedin edge features patched..😏😁  it was a 500Mb download and didnt break anything..cept some cash. 

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@ABitRusty -

So, the pedals you're talkin' about aren't real foot pedals, right?  I just assumed PreSonus already had effects available for me to use. 

Hadn't thought of Live Streaming - my Brother would love it if I did.  Everything I think of is basically just for my own creative freedom.

Gee, that 5.3 must've been what I read they were fixing. 🙄 

Looks like I better brush up on all the notation symbols. (lol) 

VERY EXCITING! 

I'm really looking forward to learning this while Kevin's gone for 2 weeks (end of July) and no Kids will be over - so undisturbed! 

Just Being Contented Smiley - Emily

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@elcbk no the pedals are virtual.. but since you said you cant use a real looper for a time this seems perfect.  If youre not going to be playing live at a gig or maybe a youtube live stream or something like street jelly, im not seeing a use for the "show" functionality of presonus.   you still have to make songs...its just you insert those into a type of playlist that you can loop from what i understand of it.  you can loop a song or even sections of it from within the song.

as far as "fixing"  the initial release of version 5 had some bugs they had to work out   havent heard anything on 5.3 till @JohnG said something..usually the incremental versions are patches to the bigger releases.  who knows though..its software.

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@ABitRusty -

I see what you are saying. 

I'm more focused on the Studio 4 Live Mode video (did you watch about the quantize feature?) - thinking similar in the 5.3 version.  Didn't know if it might have to be done in "Show Page" for 5.3 - pretty sure NO! 

The Show Page video was just the only recent video I could find with something about Studio One Live Looping. 

...actually thought 5.3 might just be all the fixes for 5.2. (lol) 

Thanx for the help!

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ELCBK said
@ABitRusty -

I see what you are saying. 

I'm more focused on the Studio 4 Live Mode video (did you watch about the quantize feature?) - thinking similar in the 5.3 version.  Didn't know if it might have to be done in "Show Page" for 5.3 - pretty sure NO! 

The Show Page video was just the only recent video I could find with something about Studio One Live Looping. 

...actually thought 5.3 might just be all the fixes for 5.2. (lol) 

Thanx for the help!

  

quantize is a feature all DAW's will have and is needed due to latency issues.  You can use input quantize so as you hit a key or pad on midi controller the daw will decide what beat is closest to when you hit and line up on that.  you can tell it to quantize to eighth, quarter, sixteenth...etc.   you can also select a range of notes or the whole track for that matter and quantize after the fact.  you can also select individual notes and move them around.  there is also a humanize feature thats adjustable to help make midi not sound so robotic...which will happen if the notes all fall exactly on the beat.  humans are always just a tad early or late.

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Looping is so much fun. I've done it for myself but never really recorded anything. It's a powerful feeling to be able to make so much music just by yourself. 😁

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