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EDM - On The Violin & Not Just For Dancing!
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Since I last posted this (Irish Genre), I've started to become a leeettle obsessed (can't stop listening!🤪) - especially with the "King of the Fairies" Dubstep, so starting a new thread for EDM. 

From last thread: 

What about "Electronic Dance Music" (EDM)?  

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Lindsey Stirling is famous for her Violin EDM. 

Obviously, this music is intrinsically bound by dance!  

Was just thinking the other day about one of my favorite genres of EDM, "Dubstep" - guess I pretty much love everything syncopated. (lol) 

The 1st Irish tune I heard and watched done in Dubstep, with someone actually dancing to it (on YouTube) was the "King Of The Fairies".   

This E/V performance by Patrick Contreras, makes me want to give this style TOP PRIORITY - on "My List"! 

 

"Irish Dubstep" (Green Lads) - could be a lot of fun to play! 

 

I absolutely love "Reelin" (Jiggy) - the dancer is Marquese Scott. 

 

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Anyone on the forum playing Irish Dubstep or any EDM, or want to learn it? 

...this music might just give me the incentive I need to plug Mortimer in for a test drive. 🤭

- Emily 

 

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So I've been trying to pick up some of Patrick Contreras' "King of the Fairies" and I can get get quite a bit from the video, but I need more help before I ever even think of plugging my Mortimer into my amp. 

Decided I better freshen up on pentatonic scales and see what guitar-licks-for-violin info was available to get me started. 

"Pentatonic Licks in A Minor" - Jason Crosby has a 6 string violin!

 

"Discovering Rock Violin - 1. The Major Pentatonic Scale" (Chris Haigh) - great point about learning this in 3rd position and why! 

 

"Discovering Rock Violin - 3. Artificial Feedback" (Chris Haigh) - to get that special sound on an acoustic violin! 

 

 

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...a little Music Theory is starting to come in handy. 😏

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I'm not quite ready, but I seem to be moving closer... 

For Beginners or violinists thinking about trying Electric Violin (E/V). 

Btw, I'm sure this info applies to E/Violas and E/Cellos!

Gibbles, at Fiddlershop, shows what you can plug your instrument into! 

 

I have found some great videos on YouTube to help explain Electronic equipment and special effects - not linking. 

"Electric Violin Effects With Christian Howes" - different types & how they sound. 

"Violin Effects Pedals with Laura C. Bates (Völur)" - overview of different pedals. 

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...love to hear what others have found to be helpful!

- Emily

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@ELCBK 

I am *somewhat* in to EDM, but I have to admit, I am not very well versed or a huge connoisseur.   Mainly, my interest is a divergence from my youth in my teens, I was heavily in to pop and MTV in the early to mid 80s, but I gravitated to heavy (and hair metal) in that time, and thus began my journey in to guitar.

In the mid 90s, a friend of mine who worked at a record store introduced me to Vanessa Mae's "The Violin Player" album which sparked my interest in the violin, and ended up sparking an interest in Classical music (though more Baroque period rather than later Romantic).   After a left hand injury, I quit playing both guitar and violin (dislocating my middle and index fingers more than 90 degrees sideways) and a prognosis that I would never play again.

I did a lot of rehab, and over the past couple of years I have started picking up both again.  It is different now for me on the violin.   There were not many resources on electric violin back then, but tech has changed, and I am picking it up with much more focus on techno and rock than I did decades ago.  It's not so much a hinderance, but right now for me, it is giving me the room to explore things musically in a way I was never able to explore before.

I've posted a couple of EDM and a couple of rock videos, but none are yet where I am wanting to go.  I think with time I will find it, if not, I am enjoying the journey.

For the most part though, I rarely pick up my acoustic violin these days, and only grab the electric.  I have a couple things in the works, hopefully I can get a grip on what I am going for, and start putting them out.

There are some really good and supportive players on the Electric String Players and Creative String Players Facebook groups, both great groups to join and follow if looking int to EDM and other modern styles of playing.

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@Sasha -

Thank you!

I'm looking for ways to help start a good Electric Violinist (Violists & Cellists, too) community here, on the Fiddlerman Forum. 😊

ANY suggestions (from ANYONE) of what to cover and how to cover it - would be greatly appreciated!  

Just feel more and more people are buying electric/acoustic as well as electric violins - so ideally, I'd like to have a reason to lure EV players here. 

Btw, I love many Pop & Rock genres! 

ALL sub-genres drive me crazy - here's 120 for EDM, alone! 

 

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...really appreciate your info on Facebook groups, but I (personally) voice my opinion by boycotting the large Social Media corporations. 

- Emily

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Oh for sure.   I am not the biggest fan of Facebook groups myself, although for me it's more a the technical limitations of groups vs actual forums. 

As far as what to cover and how to cover it, I do have that Discovering Rock Violin book, it seems very good, though I have not gotten too far with it.  There is also How to Play Contemporary strings, Electrify you Strings and Rockin' Strings, though that last couple are more geared to a fretted violin.

And then Hal Leonard has a huge play along series with a lot of modern songs and backing tracks available.   I have picked a few from that series, a couple of Celtic ones (they have a Celtic Rock one - the backing tracks are a little watered down for my tastes on it, but I can create my own as well).

And finally, I have done a couple of Rock and EDM backing tracks for Suzuki songs, I have kind of been considering a full series on that, at least for the public domain pieces.   There have been a couple of people who have expressed interest in that, and I enjoy it for my own practice.

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@Sasha - 

ANY/ALL  EV topics/threads you start here on this forum would be very helpful and appreciated, I'm sure, by many other members. 😊 

 

As for EDM... can't seem seem to shake dubstep (or similar, can't really tell all the sub-genres, yet 🤪) - been on my mind for couple years, now - especially "King of The Fairies"!  

So, here's another Fiddle version I've been thinking about, by SIZE-S & Haohinh. 

 

Everyone will think I've fallen off the bed, but think "Gaelic Storm" (Apehouse), could be a fun tune to have a go at.  Could be a good challenge to see how many of the sound effects in the break we could come close to on the violin - without pedals or reverb!  

 

semiquaver-1214And here's an idea to get everyone's creative juices flowing! 

I think it would be a challenging exercise to try to interpret, or reverse engineer, "Dubwoofer Substep" (Omnitica), to play on acoustic violin - with some advance bow strokes and nimble fingers! (lol)

 

Anyone up for the challenge?

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...slowly inching my way closer to my new Spark amp! (lol) 

- Emily

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ELCBK said

...slowly inching my way closer to my new Spark amp! (lol) 

- Emily

  

Hmm.... Spark's are okay, but not overly sure that would be my first (or even second or third choice or fourth choice) for Violin.   It's not a *bad* amp, but there are better choices in that price range.   Disclaimer:  I am not a fan of the spark.   I also don't know your level of familiarity with electric instruments/amps, but I am also not a huge proponent / advisor of modeling amps with huge array of effects for the beginner either. So take any of my opinions there with a grain of salt. :D

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@Sasha -

Smiley Broke Apart Smiley

Too late! 

Thanx for the info, guess we should have talked sooner!  I've had this sitting in it's open box, untouched, since Xmas. (lol) 

Like that it comes with PreSonus Studio One Prime recording software, great Smart app, can plug in/play or stream - plus more features, all with a small footprint. 

I'm getting closer to being happy with my playing - don't think it will be too much longer before I'm ready to start down this rabbit hole. 

Always interested in your recommendations! 

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← "Perfect Loop" by Erica Anderson  

 

@arkmaverick -

Are you still happy with your Spark?  😊 

- Emily

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@ABitRusty -

Maybe I should've posted this in your groove thread...idk. 

"Fiddler EDM" is my new YouTube find! 

Guess I have a Pavlovian response to the word "Fiddler" - feel like the Crow in "The Secret of NIMH"(1982) with his "Sparklies", because there's no fiddle here. (lol)  But, there is great rhythm produced by this Hungarian!  He has a "Dubstep Tutorial", but there's a slight language barrier (you might still find it interesting).  

I see there's a ton of Dubstep tutorials on YouTube for Studio One (in English), so I'm getting myself energized before I've even ordered a new laptop (priority, now).   

Really like this Fiddler feature, "Mayloo - Reggaestep" Official [DUBSTEP x REGGAE]

 

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Intrigued by EDM beats for a back track to fiddle tunes!  

Oops... suppose I should've 1st checked to see what extra is available for "Loopz", instead of asking you to decipher Hungarian. (lol)  

Oh well, still would like to know what you think. 😊

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Oh well, still would like to know what you think"

beat works for me.. think ill try swingin on a gate to it. 

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****MP3 DELTED BY USER***

nothing missed

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Here you go @elcbk .. I have succesfully ruined two styles of music in one day so thank you for that..lol   This beat would work well for a hornpipe i think.  i laughed when i listened back.. my high B's are mixing in with the cartoon or game music in the B part jussst right... hehe.  fun stuff .. thiink my playin needs...umm  MORE FIRE though... facepalm

thanks for the share

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@ABitRusty -

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ALRIGHT! 

You just made my day, week...

maybe my WHOLE MONTH! 

SUPERCALIFRAGILISTICEXPIALIDOCIOUS  

 

Thank You!  Thank You!  Thank you! 

I really enjoyed it!

 

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...I'm still working on King of The Fairies 

MORE... FIRE!

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haha @elcbk  good!  

fun stuff.

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@ABitRusty -

... awe, you should have left it up - very inspiring! 

"Pride of Petravore/Eileen Og", starting on the G string (Gm) - WORKS with the Reggaestep! 🤗 

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- Emily

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ELCBK said
@ABitRusty -

... awe, you should have left it up - very inspiring! 

"Pride of Petravore/Eileen Og", starting on the G string (Gm) - WORKS with the Reggaestep! 🤗 

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- Emily

  

key!??  nah..i wasnt concerned about that lol..just the beat.  

like pride of petravore..havent heard that one before!

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@ABitRusty -

Glad I checked, need to revisit some of these tunes (posted video here) - so you probably did hear it. (lol). 

https://fiddlerman.com/forum/i.....-it-all/ 

I needed crank up the Reggaestep (so addictive), so the key was right-in-my-face and made me cringe when I played Pride of Petravore (Eileen Og) in my normal Em - but Gm sounded great. 

Can't tune a lot of stuff out - luckily, I live with someone who can. 🤣

Did you get a chance to peek at the Fiddler's tutorial?  Was hoping you'd think "oh yeah, no problem with Studio One".  Don't know if he's doing anything different than any other "Creating Dubstep" tutorials on YouTube. 

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What you were doing sounded good to me. 😊

- Emily

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@ABitRusty -  Did you have to remove your stuff in post #12?  Can you put it back?  I really liked it! 

 

I'm old, of course EDM all started for me with the MOOG! 

So, everyone my age will remember this tune.  "Popcorn", was originally composed in 1969 by Gershon Kingsley, but 'Hot Butter' made it famous in 1972. 

...I'm not the only one who thinks this is cool played on the violin! 

Here's a bit more of an updated/current version - acoustic/electric violin rocking here!  Tomasz has some even better videos at his YouTube Channel

Popcorn - Tomasz Dolski

You don't need to play an E/V - try it on your Fiddle!  EASY Beginner Rolling Sheet Music (The Violin Beginner)! 

Popcorn - Gershon Kingsley - Violin SHEET MUSIC [With Fingerings] [Level 2]

 

Back in 1972, when I was in High School and 'Popcorn' became a hit, 'The' WRIF was my radio lifeline!  'The' WRIF started in 1971 - 

Under the aegis of consultant Lee Abrams, WRIF was a pioneer in the album-oriented rock format, utilizing many elements of progressive rock radio while maintaining a tight, Top-40 style play list. Other ABC stations with a similar sound included WPLJ in New York and WDVE in Pittsburgh. WRIF was not a pure rocker in its early years - you could hear such artists as KC & The Sunshine Band and the Bee Gees alongside Alice Cooper, Traffic, and the Allman Brothers. After 1975, WRIF dropped most of the pop artists to concentrate on rock, but they would play a pop or disco song if it were extremely popular. "Stayin' Alive," for example, got many spins on WRIF in 1977-78. (Wikipedia) 

 

...try some Popcorn?

- Emily

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