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Jingli Nona on Cello
How about a little cello gift?
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cid
March 28, 2019 - 4:08 pm
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This is my new cello. I am not thrilled with the Larsen D and A strings. Surprised me because they were on one of my violas before, loved them. They are a little brash for me on my cello. I am taking Evie in to the shop so they can see if it is the setup or the strings. They are going to let me try different D and A strings before messing with the setup. That said, ignoring the brash D, here is “Jingli Nona”. I probably don’t play it the way it is meant to be played. I just like playing it. I like that it uses a lot of the G string. I tried it with the C and G, but the C was too low. That could have been me. I have trouble bowing the C string. The D string is much nicer than the A string, not used in this song. That said, I would prefer a warmer, softer D string. It will happen.

Sorry, folks, I got nervous about posting videos and have decided that it is just not for me. I have not found a way that satisfies me that it cannot be downloaded, and will not link directly to my computer, or anything else. Just call me paranoid, gave it a shot.

I will continue to enjoy all of your videos. Thanks for understanding.

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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March 28, 2019 - 10:48 pm
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  I didnt think any of the strings sounded harsh at all.  I thought you sounded really good.  Im not familiar with this tune so if youre playing it wrong just make it your own and call it a new tune!  Sounded very mellow and warm and nice.  As someone who will watch what you put up I wish you would reconsider trying to use youtube.  It would make it easier to take part in your playing.  But I can also respect your descision not to.  It just makes it a little more challenging to watch you.  Keep it up!  Hows the new instructor doing?

Take care..nice playing cid!

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Nice, rich sounding G string, indeed. Interested to hear what the jury has to say about improving the D and A strings to your liking.

It looks like you have a tuner clipped on to the treble side of the tailpiece. Is that what I'm seeing in the video? If yes, do you think there's any chance that, that effects the sound of the two upper strings? 

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Cid, nice sounding cello and playing, the G and  D strings both sound good to me in the videos.

 

Mark

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March 29, 2019 - 6:03 am
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@GregW Thank you. I believe Jingli Nuna is a Far Eastern Folk song. It is in my Essential Elements for Strings Cello Book 1. It is such fun to play. I ran across it one day before, I had an instructor for cello, while still getting violin lessons. I play it many different ways. That way is the most fun. It is the bowing action that is fun. I also love that it sounds more like a cello sound, as I think of cello, because of the G string used so much. Sometimes, I really accent the G string notes (G and B and C). I make it sound like a rocking boat, definitely not the way it was meant to be played. I Googled it and watched videos. Watched an listened to a chorus sing it the way it is meant to be performed.

I absolutely love my new cello instructor. He is fantastic. Will post about it later. It is like the difference between night and day. 

I am thinking about YouTube, but I can’t get beyond the fact that there is no free lunch. I am also going to put up a post in the Breakroom sometime to ask about it. I don’t want to take from the videos posted here. It was a lot of work to break it down to 5 second clips, too. I appreciate you understanding. 

@bocaholly Thank you. I love the Spirocore C and G strings. I don’t like them on Ada, my German made Andrew Schroetter that has the different dimensioned body. That is such a bright robust cello that the Spirocore were just blasting. My new Eastman Jean Pierre Lupot is a mellower cello. This a perfect for it. 

I am curious what will be able to be done for the D and A strings. Here is the thing. This cello has a slightly narrower neck. I did not know that. All I knew was that the minute I picked it up and put it into position to play, I loved how it felt. If I was blindfolded, I would know if it was the Jean Pierre Lupot, from now on referred to as Evie. 

I noticed it when she was in her stand next to Ada, so I measured. Also, the strings are a little closer to the fingerboard. It is not as much work to press the strings. What I think is happening is that the D and A strings might be vibrating just enough to hit the fingerboard. The A is worse than the D. The A is also a little closer. When I was playing it at the shop, I did not play as loud, less vibration so maybe they did not hit the fingerboard. It was also acoustically sound. My livingroom is not. That might have eased some of the brash I am hearing.

I inspecting, the nut is lower. I called the shop and was told they could raise the nut if it is an issue. Typically, those that want the narrower neck also want lower strings, makes sense. Before anything is done to the nut, I am going to try different D and A strings, and play it in a room more like my livingroom. I am not a performer and will not be playing in an acoustically sound auditorium. I like the low profile nut and the strings lower. The C and G strings are still difficult for me, but a lot easier with the low profile nut. This was all very interesting to me, but I probably just bored all non-cellists.

Yes, it is a Snark tuner. It does not have very quick response. I am always about 5 notes beyond the note it is showing. LOL It does not affect it. I have done it with and without the Snark attached on all of my cellos. I am considering a Korg, but doing more investigating. I have to get the feel of the finger placement yet, so I can do it without relying on the tuner. 

@Mark Thank you. Yes, I love the C and G strings. 

I love this cello. It just suits me well. The fingerboard, nut height, sound. Plus, I was lucky that this is the one that played so well because I absolutely love the color! My husband does, too. He is happy that was the one, too. I was not going to use that in my decision, that was a bonus.

There was one 1k more that was better, and sounded super good, but I cannot see spending that much. My husband said to consider trading up when I improved. Not so sure. I am not a performer. The problem is, with me, the better I get, the more the quality of the sound produced affects my playing, so we will see. That will be a few years down the road. I am still in first position, except for the occasional note done by shifting. Not very often, yet, though. I love this cello as much as Inlove my Rudoulf Deutsch violin and viola. They are all Eastman, I believe.

Anyway, I thought you all might like a little taste of cello.

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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@cid I am impressed with your cello playing, and I thought that piece sounded really good, and I like the sound of your cello. Nothing sounded harsh on my end...just rich tones. Are those all your instruments in the background on the wall?

Regarding YouTube, you said, "I am thinking about YouTube, but I can’t get beyond the fact that there is no free lunch." YouTube will make your life SO easy. No more splitting vids, upload is easy, and you'll be able to share your complete videos here...and, we'll get the treat of hearing you uninterrupted.

You also said, "I am also going to put up a post in the Breakroom sometime to ask about it." By all means do it! We'll be glad to walk you through the process. Once you do it, you'll wonder why you didn't do it earlier.

Jim

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March 29, 2019 - 7:21 am
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@MoonShadows Thank you. Yes, the instruments are mine. That first one is a cheap viola. It really does not play well. Fingerboard issues. It was just purchased to see if I liked it and could hold it. It is a 16” viola. It was like $50 or so.The one next to it is my better one. It is student level, but sounds really nice. It is 15 1/2”. That 1/2” made a big difference. I just grab a bow, an instrument, and a shoulder rest from the other end when I want to play. Very handy.

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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Fiddlerman
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March 29, 2019 - 10:46 am
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CID, Just for your information, you can upload your recordings to Youtube and make it unlisted. That way only those of us who have the address will be seeing it.

It would be nice to hear it from beginning to end and I imagine dividing it like that takes a lot of time on your end as well.

A lot of professional cellists use Larsen Solo or Evah Pirazzi on the D and A.
Were your Larsen strings solo or regular?

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March 29, 2019 - 11:28 am
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@Fiddlerman My Larsens are regular. The strings are not old and used. I asked the violin shop. They didn’t look it, but I checked with them. I am going to the shop Tuesday.

Pirastro sent me a set of strings! They sent me Evah pirazzi Gold G and C, Passione D and Perpetual A. I am waiting to see if the nut has to be adjusted before doing anything with strings at my end. The violin shop will swap out the Larsens if I prefer the Jargar or whatever else they have, and that solves the problem. If I don’t care for what they have, and the nut is okay,  I will just put Larsens back on so they aren’t giving me the other when the other strings aren’t more preferred. If the nut is too low, I will try the Larsens again after it is raised and go from there. If I just keep the Larsens, but am still not too thrilled, and the nut is okay, at that time, I will try what Pirastro sent me. Not sure why they sent them. I filled out a questionnaire but nothing was mentioned about getting free strings. Weird. That was probably very confusing. 

I am a little concerned with YouTube and hackers. I have to read more about it. It is supposedly free, but they have to be getting something from it. I had ID issues before, not wanting that again. Our electric company was hacked. My info was included and used, not a good time.

I would like to use it, but I really am not comfortable with it after the ID issue. My info was used by the jerk. So, I am very cautious and uncertain. Murphy’s Law seriously follows me around! Murphy has me on speed dial and on his GPS. You have no idea how many pots I have boiled dry and had to discard!

Hey, do I get a video badge for my two performance videos I posted? 😁

They call me, “Mellow Cello” 

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March 30, 2019 - 7:32 pm
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Of course you get the video badge. 🙂

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