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It's hard to believe 3 years ago today is when I got my first violin. I did really well keeping up practice for about 6 months, but after that I only picked it up again every once in a while for about a week every other 6 months. I'm determined to get back into it and regain that passion I had for it in the beginning. I'll be recording at least 2 videos a month - one at the beginning with my first day playing the song for the month, and one at the end of the month to show my progress.
This month, to celebrate St. Patrick's Day, I'll be learning Swallowtail Jig. Here's my first video! (It's been a long time since I've played and really didn't take any time to work on doing things right today - I was just determined to actually make a video - so please hold off on critique until my progress video at the end of the month - thanks!)
"I don't play accurately - anyone can play accurately - but I play with wonderful expression."
Algernon Moncrieff (Oscar Wilde's "The Importance of Being Earnest")
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Hey, don't beat yourself up over stopping. I don't think it's ever too late to start practicing consistently. This forum is full of people who started learning a lot older than you are now.
Your base technique looks fine, especially considering the long layoff -- I'm actually impressed by how well you're avoiding the most common bad habits!
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Welcome back to the violin!
I completely understand falling out of the habit of practice. I have a tendency to give up on things before I even try, so for me to pick this instrument up was so weird. And I have a good reason not to ever quit. I simply spent too much money on it to give it up. If i find my motivation stay low for a week or so I go on youtube and watch/listen to songs and covers that made me love the sound of the instrument. It gets me back to wanting to play well badly enough to get me motivated again.
If you want it, you can do it! Remember that daily practice of just 20 minutes is better than for example 1 hour twice a week. To keep it up I also recommend setting a time every day when you do it. Same every day. It'll create a habit. For me it's 1pm. When clock turns 1, it's practice time. No matter how I feel I'll do it because I'm supposed to. (still skip sometime when Im exhausted or busy. Life still happen)
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Well Hey Andie, congrats on starting back up - it will be worth it, too much fun! Looking forward to seeing your vids, every time I start recording I get into a mess for some reason, and it all goes wrong (not that I play good without recording!) So good luck on your journey...and the peeps here are so sweet and helpful.
"every time I start recording I get into a mess for some reason, and it all goes wrong (not that I play good without recording!)"
When I mess up in lessons (which I do regularly) my teachers tells me it is because someone is watching that sees and hears every little mistake...
So since we know I can do it at home, we just laugh at the fooble, figure out if it is something we need to work on, and move on...
He tells me he knows I can do it, he sees the technique and this weekend he actually didn't have a word to say about my scales. After giving him an inquisitory look, they were perfect he said (the first time he never had anything to say about them to me). Progress...
Same as when I try to record... I KNOW someone will see/hear the mistakes.
It is a journey, we will make mistakes, even the pros make them...
To play a wrong note is insignificant; To play without passion is inexcusable. - Ludwig van Beethoven
My journey began on Aug 3 2017
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Yes James - I get you!
I get all into a particular song and play it though like 10 times getting better and better (or so I hope!) and then my husband walks in to listen, and I miss a ton of notes, loose my spot and mess the whole thing up - I wonder if it has a little to do with confidence too, I kinda let go when alone...maybe put too much pressure on to get it right infront of someone or the camera.
I am meeting an old buddy this week who plays violin professionally, and he is sure to give me some tips - I hope, still wanting to take lessons eventually.
Thank you all for the encouraging words~ Sorry about the weird angle, I did the same thing with my very first practice videos. XD Tried to do better with this one, still not quite right but I think it's an improvement. I'll get my setup figured out soon.
@Mimi Aysha I hear ya on recording. I used to start over and over and have to cut so much video. It's definitely the pressure of someone watching. At least with recording we can try and try and pick the best performance and toss the rest. I just remind myself even with studio recordings and movies, professionals have to perform several times and then select the best. Also, I'm determined to show it's never too late to learn something new, that we don't need to have started in kindergarten to do well, and not to be discouraged with being terrible at the beginning. Everyone is bad at first, and it's easier to believe that when we can see the awkward beginnings with the growth.
As promised, here's my current practice routine. I start off with open string bowing exercises from Alison Sparrow (The Online Piano and Violin Tutor on Youtube). This is to help me with bowing technique and changing strings without having to worry too much about notes. I need to work on keeping my hand relaxed and not hitting other strings. Next I work on exercises 2-9 from Essential Elements for Strings (took it from my son from when he was in orchestra, he decided to learn clarinet instead). Same thing, working on bowing without having to think too much about notes, and also to work on my counting. When I learned piano, I depended too much on playing by ear so my timing is really off. I need to start working with a metronome. After that I did a couple of scales. I usually do just the G scale, long bows for each note and using my 4th finger going up, and using open strings instead of 4th finger to check my intonation on the way down. Then I do the scale again playing about 4 notes per bow direction. I did it a little differently here because I forgot what I was doing, and attempted a D scale because the Etude I was going to be playing next is in the key of D (which ended up being unnecessary because the Etude didn't play high enough to need to play a C#). It's Etude 1 from Solos & Etudes 1 for violin. It's supposed to be used with All For Strings Book 1 but I don't have that one yet, not sure if I'll get it to use instead of Essential Elements, or to use all three books, or just do without. I also attempted to play "Rambling" from S&E1, but was a little thrown off and have decided to stick with one thing from that book each week. To finish off the practice I play a fun song that I'm either learning or already familiar with. Preferably something I have memorized so I can just feel the music instead of worry about reading notes. For now I'm continuing to work on Swallowtail Jig for St Patrick's day, but I'm looking for a song to work on for next month. The video is only 15 minutes long, but I'm usually more thorough in practicing and aim to practice for at least 30 minutes.
"I don't play accurately - anyone can play accurately - but I play with wonderful expression."
Algernon Moncrieff (Oscar Wilde's "The Importance of Being Earnest")
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Well I think you are getting it, and remembering everything you had learnt before, sounding great! I learnt a little before and did the same by picking it up a few years later, had not learnt much the first time but fumbled through the first essential elements book, which I think is great to play along to...
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further to the topic about messing up video's. I also have a lot of trouble when I hit the record button. in this video I hafta concentrate on remembering all the different riffs, because if I mess just one up too badly.....hence the 'take number 17' at the start. truth be told there were more than 17 takes before I made it thru.
and it took a toll on my intonation, which was....umm, not too good in several places.
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my intent is not to detract from the OP, just saying.... putting yourself out there on video can be difficult. and after watching that again, I'm changing the statement about the intonation from 'not too good' to 'pretty bad'
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@bluesviolin Doesn't bother me! I'm glad you shared that video! I went through a major jazz phase in jr high but never thought of trying jazz violin. After watching you I'm reconsidering! That was a lot of fun to watch. I know movies are a different story than music - in order to perform music live you need to know something well enough to get through well enough at least the audience doesn't notice mistakes - but some movie scenes have taken up to 156 takes! And people can still find goofs. The fact you can see where you need work shows you're growing.
I didn't think my goal was ever going to be to perform live. I thought I'd be just fine recording videos and sharing my growth or making "music videos" of my best recordings. I got sucked into StreetJelly, though and I think I'm gonna do it. Looks like I've got a lot of work to do improving technique, learning more advanced skills, and learning enough songs well enough to perform a full set. Yikes!
"I don't play accurately - anyone can play accurately - but I play with wonderful expression."
Algernon Moncrieff (Oscar Wilde's "The Importance of Being Earnest")
Yeah - @bluesviolin - that little red "record" light can play all sorts of havoc - but don't beat yourself up about it - we got the idea - and well done !
And yes @AndieKae - as regards the StreetJelly sessions we do - especially the "Strings on Sunday" relatively regular event - nothing "professional" is expected. StreetJelly isn't really intended for "practice" sessions - so we prefer not to describe it as that - however - what we DO do is play some tunes we know well, and try-to-play some we are still working on, and discuss where we are with a particular piece, where we feel it is incomplete, what we have to work on and so on. You're most welcome to join us any time.... I used to be a fairly rigorous poster in the streetjelly thread, giving advance notice of the shows, but we continued to attract only 3 or 4 players, sometimes less - so rather than advertising on the forum, we do it through some facebook pages we share (and of course on sj itself when we schedule a show). We have a couple of selective access (by invite only) FB groups - if/when you're interested, give me a shout... Additionally - SJ largely features guitar, keyboards, vocals etc - so fiddle is a fairly rare thing to find, and, the audience for these shows generally only includes folks who are actually interested - maybe between 6 to 20 or so viewers... it's all cool...
Oh - and of course that applies to ANYONE interested in live performance on StreetJelly.. the more the merrier....
I seriously recommend not copying my mistakes. D'oh -
Please make your own, different mistakes, and help us all learn :-)
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