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violin is not golf, but sorta :-)
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bocaholly
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Having added learning violin to my longish list of hobbies a couple of months ago, I keep seeing parallels to the time when I learned to play golf as adult. I hope you've all seen the video of Jimmie, Fiddlershop's digital manager playing a few golf shots with their carbon fiber bow:  LOL. There you have it; I'm not the first person to see the silly parallel.

The first parallel I experienced is the tricks practicing both play on your brain. One day your golf swing or bowing is reasonably satisfying. The next, poof, it's nowhere to be found.

The second parallel is my conviction that it's a real advantage to learn good habits from the start rather that ingraining the wrong muscle memory. I hope I have you experienced violinists smirking by now because I'm just discovering that, that's way easier said than done.

The third, and for now, last parallel is that practicing both deliver huge opportunities to access intrinisic pleasure.

Here are my two first violin videos (golf swing videos available on request, LOL.) The first is using a gadget I picked up at Fiddlershop to try and get some positive muscle memory going with my bowing. The second is "Minuet #1" that you'll all recognize.

Glad to be part of the forum. 
P.S. If there are any string newbies in the Boca area interested in getting together to learn some beginner appropriate music, I'm all ears. Thanks.

 (Minuet #1)

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Welcome to the forum! You're making good progress 🙂 

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Great progress indeed.
Your bowing is straighter without the gadget. LOL
Love that you are performing with the click track already. I know how much fun it is to play with accompaniment. 🙂
When the sound doesn't come out like it did in a few spots on the first video, you either need more rosin or more downward pressure. A great way to achieve this is by turning your hand counter clockwise. Also, sometimes you need to use the flat of the bow hair more than the edges.
I'm impressed by how well you are playing in such a short time.
Keep up the great work!!!

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Thanks for the hearty welcome, damfino. I've scoped out a bunch of your playing videos and the ability you've acquired in a couple of years is a super motivation for me!

And, of course, muchos gracias for the tips, Fiddlerman. More pressure and rosin... check! 

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I'm glad my videos offer some motivation 🙂 

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Great job!

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That sounds great for how long you have been playing. I think your left hand shape is good, you could benefit from using more bow. Try to practice scales using the whole bow.

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Your doing great,

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Master the Frog and you have mastered the bow.

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Thank you, All, for the pep talk.

@ryonass, I noticed you were a newcomer to the violin not so long ago yourself but you are spot on with your comment about using more bow. That's exactly what my teacher has made a priority for me to practice, so good call! I'll work on it and post a new video when I think there's been some progress.

Ryonass, I also checked out your previous videos and think I see what you mean. Your bow stroke shows "bravery" and confidence. Normally I'm an outgoing kind of gal but I find myself out of character - somewhat meek - with my bow stroke. My guess is that, by stroking small and light, I'm trying to minimize the squeaks. So your feedback fits in perfectly with Fiddlerman's. Time to override the squeak avoidance syndrome 🙂

Thanks and catch you all in a while.

bocaholly

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@bocaholly yes, I am still very much in my early days of violin. I think it has been a little over a year for me now. The biggest thing that has helped me with bowing is, start a 5min timer on your phone and play open strings with full bow. Repeat it for all strings. Make sure you pause at the frog and tip and check your bow arm. I always do that before starting a practice session and it helps a lot. Lately I found the more I focus on listening for the notes, the less tense I am and the better I bow.

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Oh Bocaholly, you are doing wonderfully!

great tip Ryonass - I need to practice this, just watched myself thinking I had used all the bow and once again just the top end! It's certainly harder than it seems, I get slower the nearer I get to the frog, thinking I'll run out so I never get there....arghgh! 

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Welcome.  With violin as in golf, "Grip tight. Swing hard."  will really mess things up. 

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. ~Herm Albright

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LOL Uzi. You golf?

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My money is on an affirmative from Uzi if he knows about "grip tight, swing hard" to mess up a shot.

My next favorite is: "look up, see a bad shot". Not sure what the violin equivalent of that would be, though. 

P.S. To All with your useful feedback, working hard on getting that bow moving over the strings from tip to tail (excuse me... to frog) which, for sure, is the equivalent of a nice full swing 🙂

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Fiddlerman said
LOL Uzi. You golf?  

I used to.  I haven't played in quite some time. 

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. ~Herm Albright

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I totally agree with the golf analogy.  So many fine motor skills involved in both activities, but it all comes down to relaxing and playing without tension.

Great videos, thanks for sharing!

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Relaxing and playing without tension is the optimal goal. 🙂

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While we're on golf- violin analogies, my golf pro always reminds me that I can only have one swing thought (max 2) at a time. So it's off limits to be thinking: "stay on plane... rotate, rotate... get that left shoulder back... don't sway... now compress on the downswing... " and oooops, by that time I'm anything but relaxed. 

So what's the story with violin. Trying to read notes, keep my pinky curved, not let my hand creep away from home base in 1st position, bow straight and long... and listen... and I actually forget to breath!

Is the "one swing thought at a time" idea applicable to learning pieces or even just exercises on the violin?

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When learning to play the violin, you experiment a lot. If something that you do works better (sounds better) you keep doing it. In my opinion, it's a lot about trial and error. So, "One Swing at a Time"..... Why not. 🙂 Just try to remember how you swung when it sounded better.

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Great videos, well done!! You bowing looks quit straight and calm. Thanks for sharing 😃 

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