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Breezing through the Suzuki Book
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Thomas B.
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Whoops. I called this Witches Dance...sorry bout that. I cant figure out how to change the title but it is actually Gavotte. I grew up using Wohlfarht and Applebaum as my learning books. His new teacher wants him to use Suzuki so he is and it is so much easier than Applebaum(at lest I think so). so no he is breezing through it. Here is Gavotte. 

 

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@Thomas B. - I hope to be that good, someday! I'm really impressed by Thomas' ability to detect mistakes and correct without getting aggravated (as I often do). It will be great to see how this develops!

The old curmudgeon!

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Great job! I loved playing that song, and I love the suzuki books. I also love your vibrato.

"In the long run, any words about music are less important than the music."
- Dmitri Shostakovich.

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@Thomas B. I fixed the title for you.

🐭

The Bumblebee Flies!

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Thomas B.

You'll have have that down in no time that was good for just starting to learn it.

Mark 

Master the Frog and you have mastered the bow.

Albert Sammons

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@Thomas B. -

You're doing GREAT, Thomas! 

You have a wonderful sense for phrasing, too! 

Hope you'll join in the Gavotte Party when you play this again!  https://fiddlerman.com/forum/p.....tte-party/

 

I'm a keen believer of using all learning tools available. 

I was wondering, Jim, does the teacher play the piece(s) from Suzuki Book 2, then just send Thomas home to practice?  Or, is he left to prepare learning a piece only by studying over the sheet music?  ...sorry if I've asked this before - can't remember. (lol)

Thomas is so amazing at quickly picking up details, I was just thinking he might really benefit from having a video reference to watch and listen to before he practices and then to also play along with after he learns it. 

Do you ever play these pieces along with Thomas?

Kevin Yen is a teacher in Raleigh, NC.  Among all his YouTube videos, he has videos of the Suzuki Book 2 pieces that are not tutorials, just the pieces played as written - which might help to even further Thomas's wonderful progress.  

Susuzki Book 2 Video Playlist - CadenzaStringsNC

- Emily

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TY Mark. @ELCBK She will have Thomas try it once, then play it for him then notate his music to study at home. Thomas is fortunate though because most kids dont have a parent at home that either plays the same instrument or is musically inclined, let along practice with them. I spend every single practice session with him without fail. We play it together at least once every day then go over it bit by bit so he knows how it should sound. After a couple days, I just sit and watch, letting him conrrect his own mistakes. Kevin is his favorite youtube, Suzuki "teacher". 

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@Thomas B. -

Outstanding, Jim! 

You help me so much - I keep everything you share in mind for how I might help my Grandkids, though I admit I'm overwhelmed with SEVEN and have to work around my not being physically mobile anymore.  

I see how your dedication has certainly paid off! 😊

Thank you! 

- Emily

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@Thomas B. Wonderful work on this—nice trills & pizzicato! 

Characterize people by their actions and you will never be fooled by their words.

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I usually have to practice several days to get to a similar point when playing a new piece and for Thomas to be able to do it after only a couple of run-throughs, with vibratto!, just stuns me.

 

I did notice a couple of things:  A tiny bit of bow wandering and a stiff pinkie.  Other than that, I'm kind of jealous of Thomas' technique, skill, and flexibility.  And the fact that he has a well developed 4th finger.

 

Yup, totally jealous here.

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@RDP -

This is not a 'Critique' thread.

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Finally got around to recording my choice for this party! Breton Gavotte, a traditional tune.

AND I mis-posted it here. Moving to the right one!

The old curmudgeon!

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Great stuff John, it really does have a French sound to it, very well played, some work gone into that one:)

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@stringy - Thanks, not perfect, but made me happy.

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@RDP Although this really isnt a critique corner as ELCBK mentions, you are absolutely correct. His bow wandering has been an issue for quite some time, but he is sooo much better than he was, thanks to the help of everyone on here. Plus, I have to admit I was guilty and as many other first starting to play a certain piece, once his notes are down and he doesnt have to think about finger placement, his focus shifts on his bowing, which gets much better. As for the pinky, you are also correct there as well. His new teacher has been driving him to keep it rounded and most of the time he does great. But again, after a few times of being reminded. I told him for the first year to keep his pinky straight because he was so young and his pinky didnt even touch the bow unless he kept it straight, the only way he could effectively put weight on it evenly. Now that he has grown, it touches. 

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ELCBK said
@RDP -

This is not a 'Critique' thread.

  

Thomas B. said
@RDP Although this really isnt a critique corner as ELCBK mentions, you are absolutely correct. His bow wandering has been an issue for quite some time, but he is sooo much better than he was, thanks to the help of everyone on here. Plus, I have to admit I was guilty and as many other first starting to play a certain piece, once his notes are down and he doesnt have to think about finger placement, his focus shifts on his bowing, which gets much better. As for the pinky, you are also correct there as well. His new teacher has been driving him to keep it rounded and most of the time he does great. But again, after a few times of being reminded. I told him for the first year to keep his pinky straight because he was so young and his pinky didnt even touch the bow unless he kept it straight, the only way he could effectively put weight on it evenly. Now that he has grown, it touches. 

  

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great playing Thomas !  enjoyed listening to you.

Thomas B. said
.... Plus, I have to admit I was guilty and as many other first starting to play a certain piece, once his notes are down and he doesnt have to think about finger placement, his focus shifts on his bowing, which gets much better. 

 

so true!   its extremely difficult to concentrate on the many different things about violin at once when learning.  
  

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@ELCBK - Thanks, I'll move it! lol 

And, as you can tell from some of the "noise", I wasn't always successful on the string crossings!

The old curmudgeon!

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@ELCBK Nope. That was appreciated actually. Thank you my friend. In the meantime, here is his second day of practicing this tune(and yes, heed ELCBK's advice with regards to critiquing, hahaha. Thanks. I asked Thomas if he wanted to put his playing of Gavotte onto the Gavotte post and doesnt want to until he has it down packed. 

 

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@Thomas B. -

I can feel it! 

Practice is going VERY well!

- Emily

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