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Wow, this has everything possible notated! 

Confused Head Scratching Emoticons Really great, but I've looked thru my go-to lists of music notation symbols and I can't find one. 

So, what is the "half arrow" seen above and below the staff in several places? 

 

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@ELCBK Could it be a partial accent? Not accented as much as the full accent mark?

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strong accent as opposed to normal accent.. according to my notion 6 cheetsheet if remembering correctly.  

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Whatever it is, it's directional - some are going up, some down.

Something about the accent on the bow stroke? 

Or, accent on the direction of the stroke?

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Ooh! 

Thanx, Greg! 

Didn't see your post...

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I don't see any partials that are vertical. I just see the normal vertical up-side-down "arrow" or "v".

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well as always..take that as a.. maybe .. in notion, my sheet music software...you can assign accents to notes so the playback sounds louder and stuff.  I think I used that symbol so that say beat 1 sounded a bit louder than 3 which had a normal accent mark.  2 and 4 nothing...or maybe i did 2 strong and 4 normal with 1 & 3 nothing..anyway..i played with those articulations to make midi sound more realistic.

. this sheet music looks overly complicated.. probably because they tried to notate all the ornaments.   

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I found a source that said the upside v is marcato. It said when it is placed above or below a note or chord, it is played with more attack than a simple accent.

I can't post the 82 page PDF link because I think it is pirated. The book is still being sold on the publisher's website. I just checked because I wanted to post the link. Checked the publisher website first. Has a wealth of music theory and notation information.

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The book I took this from was printed in 1900as far as I know. tried to get the image a bit larger but couldnt unfortunately. 

I was telling emily about this book picked it up for less than a pound in a second hNd bookshop its kerrs of Edinburgh. It has Scots Irish jigs reels, waltzes polkas and all kinds in there, the goodthingis because the book is so old most of the tunes s will be more or less original and unchanged by time and playing.

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I think back then, when music was written it really was strictly written by how that person wanted to play it, and wanted everyone else to play it. No room for interpretation. Maybe that is why so much use of ornamentation notation?

Just my thinking, have no knowledge of that, just my thinking from what little I know about it, and how strict lessons always were with playing classical exactly as written, even though it makes me feel a different way and want to change it a bit.

I don't know if that is why Blackbird is written with so much of that. Interesting to see all of it, though, but sure confuses me. Probably because I don't know that much about it, and it also blows my mind by simply looking at it. Too many notes and notations; my same issue I always have.

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Thank goodness for the youtubes and the slowdowners.. lol..

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@Mouse -

Above the music it is noted that the transcriber tried to show many variations all at once. 

The ∧ and ∨ are not the "half arrows" I was referring to.

They look like half of this (→), but some point 45° up and some point 45° down.

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lets call it bad inking of an accent..  if not that.. idk dunno

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Here, found the symbol - just NOT what it means. (lol)

https://i.stack.imgur.com/fsvL3.png

https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/samsung/148/shocked-face-with-exploding-head_1f92f.png 

What is it? 

 

Maybe less or more emphasis at just the end of playing that bow stroke? 

...a gradual swell or decline on just 1 note?

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ELCBK said
Here, found the symbol - just NOT what it means. (lol)

https://i.stack.imgur.com/fsvL3.png

https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/samsung/148/shocked-face-with-exploding-head_1f92f.png 

What is it? 

 

Maybe less or more emphasis at just the end of playing that bow stroke? 

...a gradual swell or decline on just 1 note?

  

someone will chime in..id have to google at this point..."what is it.." @elcbk i had a flashback to a steve martin bill murry skit on SNL.  

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That is pretty much we were saying. Not as much accent. The PDF I was reading said it is placed above the notehead, not the stem. That explains the above and below. 

I think this is just old fashioned, over notated11C0C4CC-96F4-467F-87D2-9E545CA25A62.jpegImage Enlarger sheet music. Is this the same song, nut in simpler form? With all notes and that gobblety gook in the notations above, I cannot tell.

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believe it or not quite a few of the tunes in there are more complex than this one. I tried to play this but couldnt and gave up😄 maybe fiddlerman could play and record it to let us hear how it sounds, a fiddlerman challenge.

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@stringy There are a few YouTubes of it, if it sounds like what I think from that sheet music. One was a young lady learning it, not the beginning stages. She was pretty good and flowing with it, not choppy. But, since I have no idea what it would sound like, try googling it. Make sure you get the fiddle and not the Beatles song. Kept getting that at first when looking for sheet music. Forgot they had one. 😁 I added Fiddle to the front for the search.

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